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Post #16
Saturday April 5, 2014 10:56pm

Joined May 2013
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I'm ashamed that I missed this game

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #17
Saturday April 5, 2014 11:10pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,387
Columbus Crew and Chicago Fire continue to put up horrible attendances.

Thank god for Cascadia.

Dallas has had very good attendances to start the season.

stone88
Post #18
Sunday April 6, 2014 12:12am

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,515
Original post from 2tone

Columbus Crew and Chicago Fire continue to put up horrible attendances.

Thank god for Cascadia.

Dallas has had very good attendances to start the season.


Yep, here in Columbus we've had quite a few seasons now with really poor attendance, this has primarily been due to poor ownership and coaching. I'm hoping Berhalter and the new owners can really reinvigorate the team and the fans again. Best way to do that is to WIN and get the city excited to go see the team play. Crew have done well early on, but its early in the season.

dolcem
Post #19
Sunday April 6, 2014 12:47am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,805
Original post from 2tone

The quality of MLS is higher this year than last year. And you have to say Edu, Dempsey, Bradley, Defoe, and other signings the past 12 months have really upped the quality.


This is a misconception that really bothers me. Of course it helps to bring in quality players to the league, especially if they are skilled, creative types who can make plays on their own and offer the technical skill and highlight-making ability most American players lack, since after all, we are trying to sell this sport to the American public (eg Guti, Riquelme, Ronaldinho, Kaka, etc...sadly the MLS hasn't done the best job of bringing in these types of players, but I digress)...but soccer isn't football. It's not like you can just add up the overall ratings of everyone in the league, take the average, and measure the quality that way. The whole is much greater than the sum of the parts.

Association football is much more of a team sport and a team is only as strong as its weakest player. You can't just sprinkle in a few DP's to make it a good league. We need to develop our youth system and get to the point where the spine of our league-the American players-all come from professional youth academies and have learned a consistent style. You can't just take a bunch of players who have been taught differently (and come from different leagues entirely, in the case of the foreign players), throw them together, and expect them to play good soccer. That's why despite the high level of athleticism and the fact that we have more youth soccer players than any other nation, the gap between the MLS and the top leagues in Europe is still big. Not saying the quality isn't improving drastically but people are jumping the gun.
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Bshredder
Post #20
Sunday April 6, 2014 1:42am

Joined Aug 2011
Total Posts: 1,459
Eddie Johnson, I just don't see it. He is just not worth this kind of money.

Hedges is strong here in the first half again for Dallas.

Big days from Bradley and Dempsey will make US fans happy

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #21
Sunday April 6, 2014 2:29am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,387
Original post from dolcem

This is a misconception that really bothers me. Of course it helps to bring in quality players to the league, especially if they are skilled, creative types who can make plays on their own and offer the technical skill and highlight-making ability most American players lack, since after all, we are trying to sell this sport to the American public (eg Guti, Riquelme, Ronaldinho, Kaka, etc...sadly the MLS hasn't done the best job of bringing in these types of players, but I digress)...but soccer isn't football. It's not like you can just add up the overall ratings of everyone in the league, take the average, and measure the quality that way. The whole is much greater than the sum of the parts.

Association football is much more of a team sport and a team is only as strong as its weakest player. You can't just sprinkle in a few DP's to make it a good league. We need to develop our youth system and get to the point where the spine of our league-the American players-all come from professional youth academies and have learned a consistent style. You can't just take a bunch of players who have been taught differently (and come from different leagues entirely, in the case of the foreign players), throw them together, and expect them to play good soccer. That's why despite the high level of athleticism and the fact that we have more youth soccer players than any other nation, the gap between the MLS and the top leagues in Europe is still big. Not saying the quality isn't improving drastically but people are jumping the gun.


Not jumping the gun at all. Bradley has obviously made TFC better therefore making the league better. Individuals can make a drastic difference in the quality of a league. Take away Ronaldo and Messi and La Liga suffers. Soccer is a team sport but individuals can make a team better and a league better.

Bshredder
Post #22
Sunday April 6, 2014 2:40am

Joined Aug 2011
Total Posts: 1,459
Add Chris Schuler to the impressive list. He just needs to stay healthy

dolcem
Post #23
Sunday April 6, 2014 3:09am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,805
Original post from 2tone

Not jumping the gun at all. Bradley has obviously made TFC better therefore making the league better. Individuals can make a drastic difference in the quality of a league. Take away Ronaldo and Messi and La Liga suffers. Soccer is a team sport but individuals can make a team better and a league better.


No, they don't. Every weekend 220 players start and 60 come off the bench. That's not including the squads in their entirety and the reserve teams (and what happens in practice). Messi and Ronaldo are a drop in the bucket. No player plays every game. If you are in La Liga, you will play against those two a maximum of four times in 38 games. Since they train nearly every day, that's a max of four times out of, say, 320ish days a year. Even then Ronaldo or Messi might have a quiet game. There are twenty one other players on the pitch. If you are a striker, you won't even have any interaction with them. It won't really make a difference. Sure, if you want to compare the leagues in a pissing contest, Messi and Ronaldo matter. But in terms of the overall quality and style of play, a couple players don't make a big difference.

Why is it that La Liga produces the best players in the world? It's not because Ronaldo and Messi play there. It's because the entire league, from top to bottom, has great coaches and players, down to the reserve team. They've been instructed at the world's best youth academies to play a consistent (Spanish) style of play, and the imports that come are the ones that can fit in to that style (mostly from Latin America). The quality from top to bottom is very strong and most importantly, the style of play is highly conducive to youth development. This is why Michu can come from the bottom of La Liga and tear up the Premier League. That had nothing to do with Messi...it had to do with the fact that every player on his team was good and knew what to do, and knew what the other players were doing. And he was trained by some of the best coaches in the world, who have been doing this for generations and have mastered the art of player development as well as any in the world.

Bradley plays very well, even makes some of the players around him play better, but it's not like a TFC defender will magically become better and learn the game better just because Bradley is on the team (and he had no effect on youth players). And a lot of these DP's fail when they come to the league, sometimes because they don't take it seriously enough, but many other times because they can't be effective when surrounded by MLS guys playing MLS tactics. They may be able to succeed at the highest level but surround them with NCAA players and they are completely ineffective. Soccer is much more of a team sport, you are much more effected by your teammates and you are only as good as they are (unless you're a wizard, like Riquelme).

What really matters for American soccer, for the overall quality of the league and style of play-the primary factors in player development-is the quality of the league from top to bottom, players, coaches, and academies. That is what will help us produce better players for the MLS (the spine of the league, the American majority, what really determines the overall quality of play) and eventually the national team. People talk about the salary cap needing to be adjusted but paying players more won't magically give them more skills. Argentine players get paid much less and look at how good they are (rejects like Federico Higuain-yes he played for my club and was a reject-can be great MLS players). What will make the league better is by baking the whole cake well (which starts with the youth academies), not just throwing on some really expensive sprinkles.

Take this example: the MLS all-stars are better than the Liga MX all-stars but look at how much bettet Liga MX teams are than MLS teams (excluding the Mexican national setup, which is a corrupt mess). The gap is still big because of the difference in quality of the TEAMS, something two or three DP's can't change.
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admsghs27
Post #24
Sunday April 6, 2014 7:29am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Wow what a game Portland Seattle. Dempsey don't worry about the critics you will start in Brazil. Yedlin played kool today. But my goodness Nagbe is a freaking stud. Wish he was legible this yr he would easily start by Bradley. Mann can't wait for that mega dynamic pairing between Bradley/Nagbe.

skangles
DC
Post #25
Monday April 7, 2014 4:30am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,438
What a game in Portland. Clint looked great but one thing that freaks me out with his US captaincy is that he will want to take PKs in the World Cup. He offers nowhere near the class that Landon provides.

blaise213
Post #26
Monday April 7, 2014 4:38am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,963
Original post from 2tone

Columbus Crew and Chicago Fire continue to put up horrible attendances.

Thank god for Cascadia.

Dallas has had very good attendances to start the season.


Chicago and Columbus need new stadiums...badly

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #27
Monday April 7, 2014 2:57pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
Original post from 2tone

Dallas has had very good attendances to start the season.


We really need to get the stadium renovated. The stadium is great (though I and many others wish it were closer to the center of the Metroplex) but we could add another 1.5-2k seats and for God's sake, please cover the nonbench side seating. The reason I generally don't go in the summer is because the seats where I usually sit aren't covered, and the temp is closing in on 1000 degrees...makes it hard to enjoy the game...makes it hard to find the will to go.

nolefansandy
Post #28
Monday April 7, 2014 5:05pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 284
Original post from blaise213

Chicago and Columbus need new stadiums...badly


Chicago's stadium was built in 2006 not even in 10 years old

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