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EKneezy
Post #1
Thursday February 27, 2014 3:53am

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Orlando set to sign US u18 defender Tyler Turner

He's been training with them during the preseason.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/soccer/...

tylercocinas
Post #2
Thursday February 27, 2014 4:25am

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Interesting that he is able to be retained by Orlando as they transition to MLS given US intl's at any level are normally subjected to a lottery, etc.

admsghs27
Post #3
Thursday February 27, 2014 4:58am

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Instead of starting a new thread why not post it on orlando city thread. Anyways good signing after all isnt he from orlando.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #4
Thursday February 27, 2014 6:36am

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Still think his best position is DM. He was transitioned from DM to CB with the U-17's, and has since been transitioned to RB with US U-18's. He is a very intelligent and talented player. I hope Orlando move him back to DM.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #5
Thursday February 27, 2014 8:23pm

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Original post from 2tone

Still think his best position is DM. He was transitioned from DM to CB with the U-17's, and has since been transitioned to RB with US U-18's. He is a very intelligent and talented player. I hope Orlando move him back to DM.


I too would hope that the Nats would see the value in grooming a young defensive minded player as a steady DM, and maybe that's what they're doing by moving him around...letting him see the different defensive tactics needed when playing different positions in the hope that that knowledge will help him make better decisions as a DM.

But that might be giving the staff a bit too much credit...

MSantoine
Post #6
Friday February 28, 2014 1:30am

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Original post from recycledhumans

I too would hope that the Nats would see the value in grooming a young defensive minded player as a steady DM, and maybe that's what they're doing by moving him around...letting him see the different defensive tactics needed when playing different positions in the hope that that knowledge will help him make better decisions as a DM.

But that might be giving the staff a bit too much credit...


Defensive midfielders and goalies are the only thing were really good at churning out. I'm confident if turner isn't the guy we'll have olenty of capable guys to step in

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #7
Friday February 28, 2014 3:03pm

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Original post from MSantoine

Defensive midfielders and goalies are the only thing were really good at churning out. I'm confident if turner isn't the guy we'll have olenty of capable guys to step in


You say that, but outside of Danny Williams I can't think of who'd I'd play out of our current midfield crop as a legit DM. We've been using makeshift DMs forever now and it's time we get one that can stay there and free up everyone else to get forward without having to worry about making a 70+ yard sprint to get back should someone lose the ball.

My point is, we need a Gattuso. With all the attacking talent we have, we should be giving them the confidence to get and stay forward in most cases and a hard-tackling permanent DM is what we need to make that happen, working in tandem with a CB pair that has both good recovery speed and positional sense.

But all that doesn't mean anything if we're not playing a possession-based attack minded set up. Setting the team up to defend well and counter quickly, we would be OK with using two box-to-box mids as makeshift DMs.

MSantoine
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Friday February 28, 2014 6:03pm

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Original post from recycledhumans

You say that, but outside of Danny Williams I can't think of who'd I'd play out of our current midfield crop as a legit DM. We've been using makeshift DMs forever now and it's time we get one that can stay there and free up everyone else to get forward without having to worry about making a 70+ yard sprint to get back should someone lose the ball.

My point is, we need a Gattuso. With all the attacking talent we have, we should be giving them the confidence to get and stay forward in most cases and a hard-tackling permanent DM is what we need to make that happen, working in tandem with a CB pair that has both good recovery speed and positional sense.

But all that doesn't mean anything if we're not playing a possession-based attack minded set up. Setting the team up to defend well and counter quickly, we would be OK with using two box-to-box mids as makeshift DMs.


Bradley was and as he ages probably will be again. Edu was a good one last cycle before injuries/loss of form. He was a starting DM for a perennial power house until Rangers went belly up. Also you have guys like O'Neil coming up who will likely have to slide over to DM. Not saying Turner wont be our best option in 5 years. Just that historically it seems like DMs are our specialty while we struggle to develop CAMs and attacking wingers

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #9
Tuesday March 11, 2014 4:59pm

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Orlando City making more substantial youth strides. BShred is reporting that talented U-18 CB Tommy Redding is going to sign for Orlando City. Good to see these talented kids signing with MLS teams/ future MLS teams. I know there was some real interest from European teams, but if it's not the right move then I applaud these talented kids signing with MLS.

Really excited about the future of MLS.

admsghs27
Post #10
Tuesday March 11, 2014 5:40pm

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I actually rate tommy Redding over Palmer brown. Redding is very good, heard he also had interest from top clubs in Europe. Wow a couple yrs from now Redding, and turner might be the best cb pairing in MLS.

nolefansandy
Post #11
Tuesday March 11, 2014 5:43pm

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Original post from 2tone

Orlando City making more substantial youth strides. BShred is reporting that talented U-18 CB Tommy Redding is going to sign for Orlando City. Good to see these talented kids signing with MLS teams/ future MLS teams. I know there was some real interest from European teams, but if it's not the right move then I applaud these talented kids signing with MLS.

Really excited about the future of MLS.


Will they both be playing this year in the USL Pro and US Open Cup or are these contracts for 2015

EKneezy
Post #12
Tuesday March 11, 2014 6:00pm

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Great for him. Looking good so far for Orlando

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #13
Tuesday March 11, 2014 9:46pm

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Original post from admsghs27

I actually rate tommy Redding over Palmer brown. Redding is very good, heard he also had interest from top clubs in Europe. Wow a couple yrs from now Redding, and turner might be the best cb pairing in MLS.


Turner is more than likely a RB for Orlando. That's where they played him during the Disney Pro Classic.

Both Redding and Palmer-Brown will be studs. CB depth might be amazing for the USMNT in a few years.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #14
Wednesday March 12, 2014 9:58pm

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Redding has officially signed for Orlando. Eurosnobs aren't going to like that he turned down contract offers from both Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund.

I on the other hand understand and like why he did it. Orlando City has promised him first team opportunities this year and heading into MLS next season. Playing first team soccer beats playing for a youth academy for a number of years at Bayern or Dortmund.

I like that his development will continue in MLS. The track record of our promising young players going straight to Europe at 16, 17, or 18, and actually making it in Europe is very poor. While the track record of players developing in MLS for a number of years, and then going to Europe is quite good.

He could still find himself with a very good European team in his early 20's if he decides that is what is in his future. I think people need to take stock in the fact that these kids want to play in MLS, and stay close to home while they are young.

The same can be said for EPB as well.

admsghs27
Post #15
Wednesday March 12, 2014 10:35pm

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Redding will be a starter right of the bat. He also could start for Dortmund, Munich 2 or 3 yrs from now. That's how good he is.

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