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Post #31
Tuesday February 25, 2014 3:58am

Joined Dec 2012
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to be fair, NHL revenue far exceeds MLS

NHL - total - 3.3 bil /yr; tv - 200 m /yr
MLS - total - 500 mil / yr; tv - 40 m /yr

i do think these gaps will start to shrink pretty significantly over the next 5 years

MSantoine
Post #32
Thursday February 27, 2014 4:42pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,723
Rumors are making the rounds that espy and fox are making a joint $70 million dollar a year offer to mls and usmnt for broadcast rights. Mls currently gets $18 mil. That's a nice increase and should make the salary cap double in the next 3-5 years( something like 10-15% a year would be my guess) in addition to another dp slot. This means in the next 4 years assuming Seattle, lag, Miami, both new yorks, and Toronto use max dp slots and Orlando, Montreal,skc, and others use 1-2 that's 30-35 World Cup caliber soccer players who will be in mls by the Russia world cup

blaise213
Post #33
Thursday February 27, 2014 6:03pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,842
[quote]Original post from MSantoine

Rumors are making the rounds that espy and fox are making a joint $70 million dollar a year offer to mls and usmnt for broadcast rights.

Add in TSN and Univision and that might make it $100 million.

MLS seriously needs to raise the DP level to 4 right after the world cup. There will be so many players available.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #34
Thursday February 27, 2014 6:27pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,256
Can't raise the DP level until the next CB has been agreed upon. If raising the DP to 4 is part of the new CBA then it won't come into affect until 2015.

My guess the bigger points that will be contested is minimum salary and the salary cap not more DP's.

tylercocinas
Post #35
Thursday February 27, 2014 7:34pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,151
Original post from 2tone
Can't raise the DP level until the next CB has been agreed upon.


I don't think the amount of DPs per roster and the CBA have a correlation. Collective bargaining relates mainly to wages, hours, and working conditions/terms of employment, etc.

The Designated Player rule doesn't fall within the ambit of those subjects of bargaining, so theoretically the league could add a 4th DP slot whenever they wanted, just like before the 2012 season, they added the Young Designated Player rule.

MSantoine
Post #36
Friday March 7, 2014 8:43pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,723
Luker sports polls just released there annual sports review to ESPN. Big news is that MLS is as popular as MLB. They asked people to choose their favorite sport from a list of 32 major sports (32!!!! do they count Hot dog eating for crying out loud!!!) and 18% of 12-17 year olds said MLS was there favorite. Exact same as MLB. It'd gone up the most in the last two years. Also in the report it states that MLS is the fastest growing sport going from in 2000 only 2.0% of americans considered themselves avid (ie hardcore) MLS fans. In 2012 that number is 7.0. 350% increase in a little more than a decade. Very impressive. Who knows, in 4-8 years it could be even higher.

Red
NY
Post #37
Friday March 7, 2014 8:52pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 417
I've been telling you guys, give it 20 years and MLS and the USMNT will both be great.

stone88
Post #38
Friday March 7, 2014 9:26pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,503
MLB is still much more popular among the older crowd, ya know, the crowd with money to blow. Still very interesting that MLS got the same as MLB among the younger generation. I can't imagine what the numbers are for European soccer if those are the numbers just for MLS. The EPL probably crushes the MLB.

stone88
Post #39
Friday March 7, 2014 9:34pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,503
This is my favorite quote from that article, "You need to understand, [the] 12-17 [demographic] is among the hardest to win over. At that age, they follow a whole lot of everything."

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #40
Friday March 7, 2014 9:44pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,256
It's exciting to see the growth of MLS. 10 years time MLS could be a massive league on the world stage.

You here of more and more European and South American players wanting to come over. Fans of MLS are cropping up in Asia, South America, and Europe. Most stating that their draw to MLS is the competitive nature. They like the fact that there is not one or two dominant teams in the league.

Trust me a lot of the eurosnobs will be silenced in the coming years.

admsghs27
Post #41
Friday March 7, 2014 10:57pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
After the World Cup it will be even more Popular, and specially if the mnt does well. But Next year 2015 will be EPIC. 2 new teams more fans, SJ will open their new stadium Chivas Usa will rebrand and special things will come from them. Attendance will be at an all time high maybe closing in on Baseball, possibly having the 2nd highest attendance in usa. MLS can only grow from here on out.

MSantoine
Post #42
Saturday March 8, 2014 1:22am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,723
Original post from stone88

MLB is still much more popular among the older crowd, ya know, the crowd with money to blow. Still very interesting that MLS got the same as MLB among the younger generation. I can't imagine what the numbers are for European soccer if those are the numbers just for MLS. The EPL probably crushes the MLB.


Exactly. And in 10-20 years all these 12-18 year olds will have money and they're more likely to get season tickets to mls than mlb. Mls games are awesome live. Tailgating and all makes it a fun 4-6 hour event every other weekend or once a month.

tylercocinas
Post #43
Saturday March 8, 2014 2:30am

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,151
Original post from MSantoine

Exactly. And in 10-20 years all these 12-18 year olds will have money and they're more likely to get season tickets to mls than mlb. Mls games are awesome live. Tailgating and all makes it a fun 4-6 hour event every other weekend or once a month.


Exactly. I'm going to RFK Stadium at 3pm tomorrow to tailgate for a match that starts at 7. Game day experience is vastly superior to US sports aside from the NFL.

skangles
DC
Post #44
Sunday March 9, 2014 4:00am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,412
I'm happy for the MLS that it's growing but I'll watch the games on TV until DC United either gets their SSS or puts out a product that is worthy of my money.

The Washington Wizards have been horrible for the past several years and unless they were playing a team like the Heat I could always get a ticket for $10 (worst seats in the arena but still). I cannot find DC United tickets for less than $25 despite the fact that they are also horrible.

stone88
Post #45
Sunday March 9, 2014 4:00am

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,503
Original post from skangles

I'm happy for the MLS that it's growing but I'll watch the games on TV until DC United either gets their SSS or puts out a product that is worthy of my money.

The Washington Wizards have been horrible for the past several years and unless they were playing a team like the Heat I could always get a ticket for $10 (worst seats in the arena but still). I cannot find DC United tickets for less than $25 despite the fact that they are also horrible.


I feel for ya, my crew just whopped dat ass tonite!

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