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rainORshine
Post #1
Monday February 24, 2014 10:24pm

Joined Dec 2012
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sorry, need to get this off my chest...

why the F@#$ is MLS/soccer still not considered a "major" US sport? what is the criteria that it needs to meet?

just listening to a story about how jason collins is first openly gay athlete athlete in one of the 4 "major" sports...

hockey is a major sport but soccer is not? thats a joke. when/how does this change?

i would love to have these reporters go to a game at century link and then tell everyone about how soccer is not a major sport

SiteBomb621
Post #2
Monday February 24, 2014 10:29pm

Joined Jan 2014
Total Posts: 176
Original post from rainORshine

sorry, need to get this off my chest...

why the F@#$ is MLS/soccer still not considered a "major" US sport? what is the criteria that it needs to meet?

just listening to a story about how jason collins is first openly gay athlete athlete in one of the 4 "major" sports...

hockey is a major sport but soccer is not? thats a joke. when/how does this change?

i would love to have these reporters go to a game at century link and then tell everyone about how soccer is not a major sport


Probably when our best athletes start choosing Soccer over Football and Basketball and gets Billion dollar deals for network viewing and we actually continue to go deep into FIFA events proabably then. Yes Century Link is a fine example as well as Philly, Columbus, LAG...but there are some A AA AAA baseball clubs who have the same turnout and thats MINOR LEAGUE ball.... Don't get me wrong i think in the next 10-15 years it will be bigger than Baseball which is dying a slow death, and Hockey..lets not go there.... It could be the 3rd most popular sport to watch.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #3
Monday February 24, 2014 10:47pm

Joined Jul 2012
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If MLS gets that projected 80 million dollar a year TV deal then they aren't far off of what NHL gets: 200 million a year.

MLS is still strongly connected to how well the USMNT performs. We can only hope that the USMNT shows well this summer.

MLS is probably another 10 years away from really breaking into the American sports market as a "major" league.

admsghs27
Post #4
Monday February 24, 2014 10:51pm

Joined Nov 2012
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When i first saw the title on the thread i knew exactly what you meant. I was pissed when they said he would be the first gay athlete in 4 Major sports here I cant believe they don't consider soccer a major sport here. I mean i get baseball, basketball, football. But hockey doesn't even have tv deals here rarely they show their games on nbc. Also mls has a higher attendance than the nba, nhl. and soon will probably surpass mlb. I think soccer overall here in the USA is more popular than baseball, and hockey.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #5
Monday February 24, 2014 10:59pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Also the population of 12 to 18 year olds, who consider soccer as their #1 or #2 sport, once they become less active in their lives and decide to sit on their rumps more into their twenties and thirties; will be a huge boost to MLS TV ratings.

It's still going to take some time. Remember the NFL back in the 50's, 60's, and 70's barely registered in the national consciousness as a major sport. Baseball, Boxing, and Horse Racing were the kings of national sport back then. And the NBA was a niche sport to watch.

dunlopp9987
Post #6
Monday February 24, 2014 11:00pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 2,641
Original post from admsghs27

When i first saw the title on the thread i knew exactly what you meant. I was pissed when they said he would be the first gay athlete in 4 Major sports here I cant believe they don't consider soccer a major sport here. I mean i get baseball, basketball, football. But hockey doesn't even have tv deals here rarely they show their games on nbc. Also mls has a higher attendance than the nba, nhl. and soon will probably surpass mlb. I think soccer overall here in the USA is more popular than baseball, and hockey.


You could maybe make a case for it being more popular than hockey, but there is no way you can say it's more popular than baseball. I still think MLB is the second most popular league in the US behind the NFL.
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rainORshine
Post #7
Monday February 24, 2014 11:09pm

Joined Dec 2012
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MLS has higher average attendance than the Championship, which is top 10 in total attendance all sports world wide (more teams / games so higher total attendance)

as mentioned above also higher average atten. than nba, nhl

and obviously growing. maybe the media could just throw soccer a bone, give it the benefit of the doubt - which would help it grow that much more

will be interesting to see what pushes it over the edge as far as popular media over the next decade or so

admsghs27
Post #8
Monday February 24, 2014 11:15pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Original post from dunlopp9987

You could maybe make a case for it being more popular than hockey, but there is no way you can say it's more popular than baseball. I still think MLB is the second most popular league in the US behind the NFL.


I think out of all 320 million people in this country there will be much more soccer fans baseball over all. You are forgetting all the mexico, fans, all of central america fans, and South America fans, Asia, even Africa, and all the euro soccer fans, and lastly all the american soccer fans you put them all together and all would easily outnumber all baseball fans. any time big clubs come to play here or power house countries you will easily get 60k plus and mexico itself has a massive fan base, as well as Some central american teams. There are a lot of soccer fans here maybe even more than basketball if we were to count 1 by 1.

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #9
Monday February 24, 2014 11:17pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,076
You could say MLS is popular than the NHL. But it hasnt and wont surpass MLB for 15-20 years. Game 6 of the 2013 World Series got around 20 million viewers.

MLB is losing its younger viewers while MLS is gaining them.

The 2013 MLS Cup got 500K. 500 freaking thousand people.

Also the USA-Canada game on Friday averaged 3.9 million people on NBCSN.

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #10
Monday February 24, 2014 11:24pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,076
Also you can throw attendance numbers out the window. Its all about TV ratings and right now MLS is in the small stages of that.

rainORshine
Post #11
Monday February 24, 2014 11:24pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 2,097
Original post from EKneezy

You could say MLS is popular than the NHL. But it hasnt and wont surpass MLB for 15-20 years. Game 6 of the 2013 World Series got around 20 million viewers.

MLB is losing its younger viewers while MLS is gaining them.

The 2013 MLS Cup got 500K. 500 freaking thousand people.

Also the USA-Canada game on Friday averaged 3.9 million people on NBCSN.


US / ghana = 19.4 mil

i realize USMNT is not MLS... but it kind of is

blaise213
Post #12
Monday February 24, 2014 11:27pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,841
MLS has a lot of cheap ownership and SHIT stadiums

Also they need to be at 30-32 teams to be considered a major sport

but believe me, I get pissed off at the lack of coverage. My local news is hit or miss with reporting on the SJ Earthquakes... Let's see how the bay area media does if the US pre world cup camp is held up here in April/May

SiteBomb621
Post #13
Monday February 24, 2014 11:30pm

Joined Jan 2014
Total Posts: 176
Original post from dunlopp9987

You could maybe make a case for it being more popular than hockey, but there is no way you can say it's more popular than baseball. I still think MLB is the second most popular league in the US behind the NFL.


Baseball is not the 2nd most popular sport as of today...i do believe the MLS has a better attendance record than Baseball, and the fact that soccer is the most popular sport among children up to 7th grade...and the fact that Little League baseball is really really really struggling....baseball is not 2nd. Besides the yanks, phils, red sox, dodgers, cards and a few more squads..those stadiums are empty or 50% or less filled.

rainORshine
Post #14
Monday February 24, 2014 11:35pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 2,097
even if MLS is not huge soccer in the US is generally pretty huge and should be recognized by media... should not be dismissed because the biggest leagues are, and always will be, in europe

its just not really accurate to continue characterizing soccer as a fringe sport. sure, MLS has plenty of room to grow, but soccer in general has arrived in a pretty big way

richieJkulesaNY
Post #15
Monday February 24, 2014 11:38pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 1,016
It's a niche sport still. Until we have quality that can rival the best of Europe, it will always be like that.

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