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admsghs27
Post #91
Thursday February 19, 2015 8:56pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Original post from cudevil

FIFA would promptly tell all of those clubs to go eff themselves.


Yeah but clubs don't have to release them is up to them. They pay their salaries and during November, December they have league play and Champions league. Is not like FIFA will tell them to shut it down for 2 months during a crucial period time. Then begin league play right away in January it won't work. And as for MLS is a crucial Period of time also you have playoffs and MLS cup in November and December.

BG6
Post #92
Thursday February 19, 2015 10:01pm

Joined May 2014
Total Posts: 97
For those of you hoping the World Cup gets moved, I am curious what you believe the mechanism Fifa can use to break their contract without being forced into bankruptcy (along with member federations) for lost revenue and infrastructure inprovements. Certainty there are some outs for not reaching certain milestones (Brazil did not reach many so this will be a toughr argument) possibly for human rights violations (umm Russia? Again Brazil had shown questions Arlin's Thai too when workers died) and likely natural and man made disasters (war). I cannot foresee loss of sponsors or clubs not releasing players as being written I tot eh contract as a mechanism for jot fulfilling on Fifa part. Maybe it is naïveté on my part but I can't foresee scenario where it is held anywhere other than Qatar.

snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #93
Thursday February 19, 2015 10:17pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 894
It's not moving. Waste of time talking about it and hoping for it
If you don't love it, leave it, USA #1
BG6
Post #94
Thursday February 19, 2015 11:01pm

Joined May 2014
Total Posts: 97
I'm sorry for the incomprehensible post. Price for posting via phone and autocorrect.

hamsamwich
Post #95
Thursday February 19, 2015 11:02pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,630
I doubt fifa is worried about MLS cup interfering with the World Cup. 2022 is a long way away, they act like it's so hard to re arrange the schedules 7 years out, while a majority of the leagues bring in 3 new teams every year and kick out 3, so let's not act like scheduling is done any time but during the previous off season. So November-December? Of 2021 or 2022?

dunlopp9987
Post #96
Thursday February 19, 2015 11:30pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 2,648
Just watching Around the Horn, and Bomani Jones had a really good point. This will not only affect European leagues and possibly even the MLS schedules, but also American viewership. I think the sport is only going to continue to grow here, so maybe it won't be an issue. But to have the World Cup right in the middle of college football/NFL season? Fairly certain they're going to lose viewers due to that scheduling.
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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #97
Friday February 20, 2015 12:33am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,652
Still 8 years away. Who knows what will happen in the Middle East in that time frame. The world might be totally different by then.

Another massive global war is looking more and more likely.

skangles
DC
Post #98
Friday February 20, 2015 1:14am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,449
Russia isn't exactly stable at the moment either.

MSantoine
Post #99
Friday February 20, 2015 2:35am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,723
Leagues will easily be able to modify there schedules. Mls will have to add 2-3 mid week games and they'll finish beginning of October. Europe teams will just have to start 2021 season earlier by a couple weeks and have the winter break likely extend a week. UCL/uefa takes long breaks between rounds. They can modify the breaks.

Regarding American TV viewership that's also a misconception. East coast is 8 hours behind Qatar. So for games at 3pm, 5pm, 7pm local time the games will be 7am, 9am, 11am eastern time. Games all will end before football games start, or at worst overlap with some first half games on Sunday's (3 times in the whole cup?). We all know that west coast doesn't pull in the viewership (something like 8 of the top 10 ratings cities were eastern). Die hard west coasters will have some early mornings, and there will probably be more espn3 watching/reading on a computer at work but he'll still watch.

cudevil
Post #100
Friday February 20, 2015 5:45am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,204
Original post from admsghs27

Yeah but clubs don't have to release them is up to them. They pay their salaries and during November, December they have league play and Champions league. Is not like FIFA will tell them to shut it down for 2 months during a crucial period time. Then begin league play right away in January it won't work. And as for MLS is a crucial Period of time also you have playoffs and MLS cup in November and December.


There is zero chance that clubs will not be obligated to release players. The major Euro leagues will shut down and they won't even think twice.

Rey Regicide
Post #101
Friday February 20, 2015 2:26pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
we get crap for not wanting to play in the snow and polar vortexes and not align our schedules

FIFA decides it's going to play during the winter time because it's too hot.

Seriously, SMH.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #102
Tuesday February 24, 2015 4:44pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,652
It's already started. Both the EPL and La Liga have issued statements in regards to an anti- winter world cup in Qatar.

This issue is going to be huge.

Yes players have to be released for FIFA official tournaments, but we are forgetting one thing. It's the players choice to actually play for their national team. How many players are going to want to play a half of the season in Europe and then play a WC then go right back to playing the rest of the season? I would imagine there will be player boycotts.

If the big time players decide to not play in the WC in 2022, then no one could care less to watch.

FIFA better prepared to take a massive hit financially.

snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #103
Tuesday February 24, 2015 5:17pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 894
Yeah, the players aren't going to skip playing in a World Cup lol
If you don't love it, leave it, USA #1
EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #104
Tuesday February 24, 2015 6:06pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,428
Yep no player is skipping the World Cup. Even fringe guys wouldn't dare skip it, in hope of a chance of injury or good form.

But this just furthers the point of how bad Sepp and his boys have shit the bed on this.

MSantoine
Post #105
Tuesday February 24, 2015 6:07pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,723
there's 576 million reasons why the players wont skip.

One interesting side note is that there is a huge chance that the confed cup will not be played in Qatar as they wont want to disrupt two consecutive seasons. They are talking about using the FIFA club world cup there so that Qatar can get the dry run (remember the confed cup is more for the hose cities/venues to see if they can handle it from a transportation, security, hotel side first and for the players second). If this is the case I wonder if teams will treat the confed cup differently as if its played in australia how does that prepare you for the world cup other than the added matches against good teams.

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