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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #16
Thursday March 27, 2014 5:56pm

Joined Jul 2012
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There are a lot of player variables to take into account going into the next WC cycle. Will Salgado come good, will Zardes come good, will Shawn Parker choose the US, will Gatt regain form, will Gyau find a way to come good, maybe Lletget bursts onto the scene finally, will Holmes burst onto the scene, will Fagundez decide to stay in MLS and get his citizenship etc...?

Really hard to construct a 23 for the 2015 Gold cup let alone for the 2018 WC.

Also has previously stated the 2015 U-20 WC is going on at the same time as the Gold Cup so don't expect Arriola, Flores etc.. to be on the Gold Cup team.

My new 23 for the 2015 Gold Cup:

GK: Sean John, Guzan, Howard

Defense: Yedlin, Chandler, Cameron, Brooks, Besler, Hedges, Garza, Fabian(might be a winger, depending on where he plays for Monchengladbach)

CM's: Diskerud, Bradley, Williams, Gil, Powers

Attackers: Jozy, Arjo, Agudelo, Green, Parker(signs are pointing to him playing for the USMNT), Corona, Holmes

Lando IMO will retire form international ball after the WC.

Deuce may still be in the equation, but I think it would behoove Klinsmann to really start bringing in the young guys after the WC this summer. And to make Bradley the captain to lead the young crop.

But as always things will definitely change in the next year.

The friendly's in September will go a long way to how Klinsmann is going to approach the 2018 WC cycle from a player pool standpoint.

nskarie
Post #17
Thursday March 27, 2014 6:45pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 42
Would be interesting to see how high people from other countries rate these prospects. We all have bias towards them and think they will become the next LD or Deuce but gaining outside opinions would be interesting.

soccerboy-1983
Baumholder, Germasny
Post #18
Thursday March 27, 2014 7:01pm

Joined Nov 2013
Total Posts: 139
Well living here in Germany i can tell you that green rates pretty high for them. His switch even made the paper here

MSantoine
Post #19
Thursday March 27, 2014 8:54pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,231
Original post from 2tone

There are a lot of player variables to take into account going into the next WC cycle. Will Salgado come good, will Zardes come good, will Shawn Parker choose the US, will Gatt regain form, will Gyau find a way to come good, maybe Lletget bursts onto the scene finally, will Holmes burst onto the scene, will Fagundez decide to stay in MLS and get his citizenship etc...?

Really hard to construct a 23 for the 2015 Gold cup let alone for the 2018 WC.

Also has previously stated the 2015 U-20 WC is going on at the same time as the Gold Cup so don't expect Arriola, Flores etc.. to be on the Gold Cup team.

My new 23 for the 2015 Gold Cup:

GK: Sean John, Guzan, Howard

Defense: Yedlin, Chandler, Cameron, Brooks, Besler, Hedges, Garza, Fabian(might be a winger, depending on where he plays for Monchengladbach)

CM's: Diskerud, Bradley, Williams, Gil, Powers

Attackers: Jozy, Arjo, Agudelo, Green, Parker(signs are pointing to him playing for the USMNT), Corona, Holmes

Lando IMO will retire form international ball after the WC.

Deuce may still be in the equation, but I think it would behoove Klinsmann to really start bringing in the young guys after the WC this summer. And to make Bradley the captain to lead the young crop.

But as always things will definitely change in the next year.

The friendly's in September will go a long way to how Klinsmann is going to approach the 2018 WC cycle from a player pool standpoint.


Id be ok with this roster with a few personnal changes. I think if Packwood keeps his current form and stays injury free after the world cup he could start to work himself into the picture. Id give him better odds then Hedges, although O'Neil could also challenge for the spot if he becomes a consistent week in and week out starter. Id also give early edge at backup fullback to Lichaj over Garza. JK seems to favor experience at fullback (see Evans and Beasley). My final change would be Boyd over Corona. JK usually brings 3 strikers. Especially where AJ isnt a true striker in Jozy's mold and the fact that Agudelo, Green, Parker, and Holmes are more wings/underneath guys I could see Boyd be the 3rd striker a la EJ

MSantoine
Post #20
Thursday March 27, 2014 9:07pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,231
Original post from 2tone

There are a lot of player variables to take into account going into the next WC cycle. Will Salgado come good, will Zardes come good, will Shawn Parker choose the US, will Gatt regain form, will Gyau find a way to come good, maybe Lletget bursts onto the scene finally, will Holmes burst onto the scene, will Fagundez decide to stay in MLS and get his citizenship etc...?
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We may have gotten our first answer on these questions. Reports out of Norway are that Gatt retore the same ACL he was rehabbing in practice. This most likely means another lost year and its doubtful he ever plays for US again. He was a fringe prospect for us already and with the talent infusion in the next 3 years its hard to see him making an impact. Tough break for a great guy

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #21
Thursday March 27, 2014 9:26pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 5,231
Original post from MSantoine

Id be ok with this roster with a few personnal changes. I think if Packwood keeps his current form and stays injury free after the world cup he could start to work himself into the picture. Id give him better odds then Hedges, although O'Neil could also challenge for the spot if he becomes a consistent week in and week out starter. Id also give early edge at backup fullback to Lichaj over Garza. JK seems to favor experience at fullback (see Evans and Beasley). My final change would be Boyd over Corona. JK usually brings 3 strikers. Especially where AJ isnt a true striker in Jozy's mold and the fact that Agudelo, Green, Parker, and Holmes are more wings/underneath guys I could see Boyd be the 3rd striker a la EJ


O'Neil is a RB now under Pablo.

Hedges is vastly underrated. While I like Packwood, I have seen nothing from Packwood that Hedges isn't just as good if not better.

I think Hedges is further along in his development, and will be ready to contribute to the USMNT after the WC. Packwood still has a few years to refine his game and grow. Packwood has only been a consistent CB since January for Birmingham while Hedges is now into his third year for Dallas.

MSantoine
Post #22
Friday March 28, 2014 12:30am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,231
Original post from 2tone

O'Neil is a RB now under Pablo.

Hedges is vastly underrated. While I like Packwood, I have seen nothing from Packwood that Hedges isn't just as good if not better.

I think Hedges is further along in his development, and will be ready to contribute to the USMNT after the WC. Packwood still has a few years to refine his game and grow. Packwood has only been a consistent CB since January for Birmingham while Hedges is now into his third year for Dallas.


You may be right with hedges but if I'm predicting what JK will do I think you have to lean towards a guy who's been called into a camp over a guy with no camps. Also packwood has a better chance to be an EPL defender than hedges in 2015 being he's already in England and hedges probably won't qualify for a work permit until 2016 at the earliest since he'll need us appearances first. Throw in he fact that packwood is 3 years younger and I think packwood had an advantage for 2015 if he avoids injury next season

Bshredder
Post #23
Friday March 28, 2014 3:57am

Joined Aug 2011
Total Posts: 1,459
Packwood has played well for his age and his injury but BCFC is horrible. With central defenders, being young (as a central defender) and only having low Championship experience doesn't scream fast track. He had a great February but an up/down March.

I think Packwood is probably set for the Olympics first and then if he does well there, then its integration into the full team. People forget, but he is still learning central defense. When he joined BCFC's academy at 14, he was a d-mid. He didn't move the backline until he was like 17. Before his injury, he was playing right back.

Hedges played well in spurts last year and is off to a great start this year. If he keeps it up, I can see him climbing the ladder quickly. His physical tools are a bit further along and he was built to play central defense.

admsghs27
Post #24
Friday March 28, 2014 4:20am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,396
If i was to predict starting 11 in the Olympics if we qualify I would go with. A 4 3, 3

Green Jozy Arriola

Gil Bradley Holmes

Acosta Packwood Brooks Yedlin

Guzan

3 overage players Jozy, Bradley, guzan. Maybe Aron for jozy.

CS10
Post #25
Wednesday April 2, 2014 6:43am

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 94
My fantasy hopefully by then won't be so fantasy as I think this team would play attractive football only seen on YNT before..

---Agudelo/AJ---
Green--Gil---Rowe-
--Powers-Bradley--
FabJ-Gonzo-Besler-Yedlin
---Howard---

Rest of roster: Guzan/Johnson, Farrel, O'Neill, Packwood/Brooks, Chandler, Okugo, Hedges, Williams/Diskerud, Zusi/Bedoya, Trapp, Serna, Altidore... (other attackers in the mix: Shipp, Cascio, Fernandes, Deleon, Joya, Corona, Holmes, Boyd). No Arriola cuz U20 WC is at the same time.

Hot damn are attacking talent next cycle is sick. That's still not counting any of the u20s except for Green.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #26
Monday May 5, 2014 5:31am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 5,231
With the possible arrival of Zelalem, I have an update of a potential 23 for the Gold Cup. Now if Zelalem decides to rep the USA he will also be available for the U-20 team, but if he is playing regularly for Arsenal next season, or goes out on loan and plays regularly for a Championship or EPL team, then I would almost bet on Klinsmann keeping him for the Gold Cup. Supposedly Julian Green can't play for the U-20's according to Tab Ramos, so he will be on the Gold Cup team as well, so here is my new 23:

GK: Sean John, Guzan, Howard

Defense: Chandler, Yedlin, Brooks, Besler, Hedges, Cameron, Fabian

CM's: Bradley, Zelalem, Trapp, Williams, Diskerud

Attackers: Altidore, AJ, Agudelo, Boyd, Green, Gyau, Zusi, Bedoya

I still have Donovan retiring from international soccer after the WC.

Other potential players:

GK: Hamid, Irwin, Clark

Defense: Klute, Garza, Castillo, Gonzo, Packwood, Ream, Remick

CM's: Powers, Gil, Joya, Holden, Lletget, Kitchen, Morales, Stanko, Pelosi, Torres, Corona

Attackers: Wooten, Wood, Dempsey(if still in top form), Holmes, Zardes, Koroma, Parker(depends if he reps the US), Bruin, Shipp, Okoli, Salgado.

U-20 players that could be in the running if they don't qualify for the U-20 WC. Which with amount of talent for this next U-20 cycle, it would be shocking if they didn't qualify, and Ramos would have to be fired.

No GK's

Defense: Acosta, EPB, Miazga

Cm's/CAM's: Sonora, Hyndman, Junior Flores

Attackers: Lynden Gooch, Arriola, Zach Pfeffer, Spencer, Novakovich, Romain Gall, Rubin

Should be interesting to see which young players Klinsmann deems to be full USMNT status, and which ones he still deems U-20 status in 2015.

Know Nothing
Post #27
Monday May 5, 2014 3:56pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 391
With the Copa America a year away, I think JK will be looking for the fringe veterans ans younger talent to step up. I believe a team can make changes after the group stage of the GC, so for the preliminary rounds...

GK: Guzan, S Johnson, Cropper (may need the call up for work permit)

Def: Ream (LB), Packwood, Besler, Gonzo, Yedlin, Klute, Hedges

CM: Bradley, Stanko, Trapp, Mix, Williams

Attacking: Gil, Gyau, Boyd, Green, Aguedelo, Zusi, Bruin, Pelosi

If we make it out of the group then Howard, Cameron, FJ, and Jozy into the side

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #28
Thursday September 11, 2014 5:24am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 5,231
I know I put up a projection already, but here is my official projection for the 23 man 2015 Gold Cup team 9 months out:

GK: Guzan, Rimando, Hamid

Defense: Yedlin, Chandler, Garza, Fabian, Gonzo, Brooks, Besler

CM's: Bradley, Jones, Diskerud, Cameron(DM/CB), Bedoya

Attackers: Deuce, Altidore, Zardes, Johannsson, Gyau, Green, Morris, Shea(I have a feeling he is going to tear it up for Birmingham in the Championship)

I am projecting Morris to sign with Seattle in January, and I project him as a Reus type of winger for the Sounders and for the USMNT.

Can't wait to see how accurate I am considering a lot of things will obviously change in 9 months.

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #29
Thursday September 11, 2014 6:01am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 335
Corona?

Rey Regicide
Post #30
Thursday September 11, 2014 1:55pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 315
Original post from 2tone

I know I put up a projection already, but here is my official projection for the 23 man 2015 Gold Cup team 9 months out:

GK: Guzan, Rimando, Hamid

Defense: Yedlin, Chandler, Garza, Fabian, Gonzo, Brooks, Besler

CM's: Bradley, Jones, Diskerud, Cameron(DM/CB), Bedoya

Attackers: Deuce, Altidore, Zardes, Johannsson, Gyau, Green, Morris, Shea(I have a feeling he is going to tear it up for Birmingham in the Championship)

I am projecting Morris to sign with Seattle in January, and I project him as a Reus type of winger for the Sounders and for the USMNT.

Can't wait to see how accurate I am considering a lot of things will obviously change in 9 months.


Can't say I disagree with this, this is looking exciting

Do you feel that Shea at Birmingham will fare better than Rubin at Utrecht?

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