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tylercocinas
Post #1
Monday February 17, 2014 5:12pm

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https://twitter.com/mlsrumors/status/43542246...

Thoughts? I know this is something that many of us have suggested and it seems as though it might actually be coming to fruition. Obviously not in time for this season, but I could live with one more season of Chivas in the league if LASC is on the way.

admsghs27
Post #2
Monday February 17, 2014 11:41pm

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Great news apperantly is true. Finally about time!

http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/17...

http://www.thegoatparade.com/2014/2/17/541854...

Im guessing next season it will be in effect. Also their fan base will grow more.

Tiger
Post #3
Tuesday February 18, 2014 12:12am

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In addition to the rebranding, perhaps Chivas is also being positioned to shift to somewhere like Phoenix.

skangles
DC
Post #4
Tuesday February 18, 2014 2:52am

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Too little too late. It's a step in the right direction but who on earth is going to be a fan of LA FC or LA SC? They need to move the team to a new market.

It will also be interesting to see whether the Chivas management continues to meddle with the team

tylercocinas
Post #5
Tuesday February 18, 2014 6:02am

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Original post from skangles
It's a step in the right direction but who on earth is going to be a fan of LA FC or LA SC?


I guarantee if you surveyed MLS fans prior to the SKC rebrand there would have been a similar sentiment. However, even with a rebrand I do question their ceiling as long Vergara is the owner. His tenure as owner of the "Chivas" brand has been marked by entirely too much turmoil and turnover.

Lilshmike
Post #6
Thursday February 20, 2014 3:30pm

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I have been saying that they need to do this. They need to move tho.

LA might be a big market for other major sports, but not soccer. There aren't enough people for the club to survive in LA. About 3/4 of the soccer fans in the area are Galaxy fans and have been for years, before Chivas USA was even created. Additionally, by being Chivas USA, the club has alienated every demographic except for Mexican/Latin American immigrants and fans of Chivas Guadalajara.

Phoenix could POTENTIALLY be an alright market, but I don't think that will work. They need to go to a new city, with a lot of people, who WANT an MLS team, and who are willing to subsidize the construction of a new stadium. Right now, thats one of the biggest downfalls of the club. They pay the Galaxy to play in their stadium. In order for them to survive they need to go to another part of the country and become a completely new club.

There are a number of cities that want an MLS franchise. It makes the most sense for Chivas USA to move to one of those (San Diego, Detroit, Atlanta, Phoenix, San Antonio, Indianapolis, Raleigh/Charlotte).

MSantoine
Post #7
Thursday February 20, 2014 4:50pm

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Original post from Lilshmike

I have been saying that they need to do this. They need to move tho.

LA might be a big market for other major sports, but not soccer. There aren't enough people for the club to survive in LA. About 3/4 of the soccer fans in the area are Galaxy fans and have been for years, before Chivas USA was even created. Additionally, by being Chivas USA, the club has alienated every demographic except for Mexican/Latin American immigrants and fans of Chivas Guadalajara.

Phoenix could POTENTIALLY be an alright market, but I don't think that will work. They need to go to a new city, with a lot of people, who WANT an MLS team, and who are willing to subsidize the construction of a new stadium. Right now, thats one of the biggest downfalls of the club. They pay the Galaxy to play in their stadium. In order for them to survive they need to go to another part of the country and become a completely new club.

There are a number of cities that want an MLS franchise. It makes the most sense for Chivas USA to move to one of those (San Diego, Detroit, Atlanta, Phoenix, San Antonio, Indianapolis, Raleigh/Charlotte).


Id move them to sacremento. Stays in Cali to keep a LAG derby and moves them clsoer to the Earthquakes so they can grow that one. Sacremento is a pretty good secondary market (see Kings) and it also puts them closer to Seattle/Portland

Lilshmike
Post #8
Thursday February 20, 2014 6:21pm

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Original post from MSantoine

Id move them to sacremento. Stays in Cali to keep a LAG derby and moves them clsoer to the Earthquakes so they can grow that one. Sacremento is a pretty good secondary market (see Kings) and it also puts them closer to Seattle/Portland


Idk, personally, I don't think that is wise. Sure, the LA derby may be nice, but who the hell cares. The only way that a derby is relevant is when both teams are close in geography and if either both teams are good or both teams have a solid fan base and atmosphere at games. Sacramento is far from LA. Its closer to San Jose (who has a small following). Chivas WILL NOT become a good team any time soon. Same goes with the Galaxy.

They just signed Robbie Keane to a multi-year extension on a DP contract. He is getting older, slower, and worse. That was stupid. Landon Donovan is not getting any younger or better. Lengthy contract and DP status for him too. Omar Gonzalez, as long as he doesn't play terrible at the WC, will be on his way out the door as well. What is LA doing at the moment? Nothing. They are an aging team with little to no young blood that has finances tied up in the wrong players.

Additionally, its a smaller market. Not a negative thing, but I think that the fact that Sacramento is having issues keeping the Kings is a sign of what would happen if an MLS team were to go.

Lilshmike
Post #9
Thursday February 20, 2014 6:27pm

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Contrary to what many people may think, Don Garber is a smart man. He is a business man. He understands that the teams need to be spread geographically into strategic markets to make sure that each franchise can gain a sizable portion of the areas sports market share.

If it were me, I would allow the team to change its name to something universal. Team names that include FC, United, Sporting, Club, etc. that can be used no matter where the team goes. Next, I would allow the team to stay in LA for the time being. Then, I would look for another market that wants an MLS franchise and enter into talks to get funding for a stadium and infrastructure set up to support a club.

When an agreement could be met, a date would be set and construction would begin. When the city was ready (say in 2017), the "rebranded" Chivas would exit LA to their new market and all is well.

New team, new market, expand the MLS, bigger fan base. Win Win

blaise213
Post #10
Thursday February 20, 2014 10:15pm

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I would fold them after next year. LA doesnt need a 2 teams

Lilshmike
Post #11
Thursday February 20, 2014 10:22pm

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Original post from blaise213

I would fold them after next year. LA doesnt need a 2 teams


Exactly. LA has the Galaxy. Thats all they need. The only problem is that Chivas has paid the MLS to join the league. They have a contract set up as a franchise, so they can just fold the team.

Only things they could do are rebrand, move to another market, or rabrand and move to another market. When you think about it, only one of those options makes sense.

Red
NY
Post #12
Thursday February 20, 2014 11:01pm

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If the new LA team can get a stadium in downtown LA it would be amazing. They could eclipse the LAG with sheer location, remember the Galaxy play in Carson.

With the right ownership group, with deep pockets, and new downtown location this could be awesome.

LA has some of the higher TV ratings, soccer participation and love for the game. This market NEEDS 2 teams and they can both be highly successful as long as both ownership groups care and splash the cash.

Competition drives everything, makes everything better.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #13
Thursday February 20, 2014 11:33pm

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Is Kroenke now the leading contender to purchase the team?

Never mind Graber has stated that Kroenke is not in the mix.

I wonder who is?

admsghs27
Post #14
Friday February 21, 2014 12:12am

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Yup just heard the news earlier on ESPN Deportes with Jorge Ramos that Vergara had sold the team well just part which is chivas usa but will keep being owner of chivas guadalajara. Kroenke should be a front runner, or Maybe Vince Mc Mahon.

Tiger
Post #15
Friday February 21, 2014 12:32am

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Doesn't Kroenke already own the MLS Colorado Rapids?

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