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Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #16
Thursday July 10, 2014 5:16pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,395
From this TopDrawer report Kai really showed well in his first game for the U17s. Knew I wasn't saying this kid should get called up for nothing.. Had an assist and a shot hit off the post replacing Joe Gallardo off the bench, against an older USL pro team in 2-2 draw. Looks like he will give a few players a good fight for starting position.

Christian Pulisic: "I haven't played with Kai [Koreniuk] much, but he is such a good player and he is good on the ball," "I just yelled for the ball and I passed it to him and he gave it right back to me in a great position to score. It was a good play."

Report: http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-soccer-ar...

Good to see a foreign based player not getting ignored..prob helped that he's from Florida tho ha...

Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #17
Wednesday August 26, 2015 10:09pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,395
Just got called to the Netherlands u18s..

He also made his debut with the first team in a friendly not to long ago..

But according to Richie he isn't good enough for our u17s.. Its like if you don't come to residency your already a step behind everyone else in his mind...

soccerboy-1983
vicenza, italy
Post #18
Wednesday August 26, 2015 10:20pm

Joined Nov 2013
Total Posts: 306
If he is called into the Netherlands u-18 is good enough. that's a very dumb statement by Richie

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #19
Wednesday August 26, 2015 10:44pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 9,238
I really question our youth coaches as talent evaluators at times.

soccerboy-1983
vicenza, italy
Post #20
Wednesday August 26, 2015 10:56pm

Joined Nov 2013
Total Posts: 306
I second that this guy is going to be a guy a few years from now that we are talking about on here saying damn I wish we has gotten this guy.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #21
Wednesday August 26, 2015 11:17pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,410
It will be Subotic all over again.

Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #22
Thursday August 27, 2015 2:07am

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,395
Sad thing is he wants to play for the US and prefers us.

He is only answering the Netherlands because there calling.. And who wouldn't accept a call from them when your not getting called..

dfw_fan
DfW
Post #23
Thursday August 27, 2015 4:32am

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 911
too late for reversal?
Wonder what JK would say/do?

Nyrbsoccer
Post #24
Friday August 28, 2015 2:18pm

Joined Aug 2015
Total Posts: 1
Its as if he has been penalized for going abroad to play. And for having success. Not on quite same level, but there is a u14, now u15 American kid playing at FC Koln- Ian Hoffmann. Only 2001 to make 2000 Red Bulls team before he went over when a friend told me about him there. Was named player of tournament in June at a tourney w PSG Dortmund Bayern Wolfsburg Basel etc, and has yet to be asked to US camp. I dont get the scouting. Kid has that happen at a showcase hes handed a ticket on the spot. Here hoping Kai picks Holland and kills it.

joey11
Post #25
Friday August 28, 2015 5:09pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 267
I never understood why Richie is a part of US coaching. Wish someone like Ernie Stewart was a part of US scouting and getting US youth coaches calling these players in! Yes winning the youth championships and Olympics would be great but you need to use them as viewing and preparing the future USMNT and, as in the case of Subotic, you can't refuse to call a good young prospect in to at least look because you may be worried of they may disrupt chemistry of the group you "feel good with." Image if we had Subotic how much better our def. would be. Oh well!

Rey Regicide
Post #26
Friday August 28, 2015 6:24pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,900
the thing is, it's one thing that Subotic got rejected and snubbed

it's another that Tim Ward and igwe went to college got stuck in pre "we know what we're doing " MLS youth systems and never panned out.

There might not have been that much separation talent wise, athletically, initially but that changed real quick.

dolcem
Post #27
Saturday August 29, 2015 6:43am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,737
Original post from 2tone

I really question our youth coaches as talent evaluators at times.


The sport here is too new. In Europe or South America, the same systems have been in place for decades. The scouts have always been watching the same competitions year after year. They've mastered evaluating talent.

In the US, the sport is so new that the last generation was basically playing a different sport. The level of play was much lower, the competitions were entirely different (the youth academy system is new here, for example), and there wasn't really even soccer on TV, so I don't think the scouts then really knew what they were doing (hardly anyone in that generation grew up watching the sport). The scouts of this generation are watching a completely different ballgame and the whole talent pipeline is structured differently. And the instruction they received from their predecessors wasn't very good quality. They've basically had to figure everything out on their own as they go along. It'll take a long time for them to get the hang of it.

Meanwhile, European clubs will continue to poach kids overlooked by the system. We'll continue to see more guys like Morris and Ibarra. Thank god Klinsmann called those guys up because if he hadn't, they might not have ended up as professional soccer players.
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