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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #136
Thursday January 1, 2015 8:56pm

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I think Zardes has a lot to gain USMNT wise especially if he has a very good January camp.

But I have heard that Ghana is very interested in Zardes. He does have Ghanian ancestory. Goal.com has an article up that Avram grant met with Gyasi a couple of weeks ago in order to convince him to play for Ghana. So if Ghana has that much interest, I think it would behoove Klinsmann and USMNT fans to not take that lightly.

BG6
Post #137
Thursday January 1, 2015 9:50pm

Joined May 2014
Total Posts: 74
What do people see in Mullins? I must be missing something. I watched every revs game this year many live and I don't understand people's belief that Mullins can compete internationally. He does do some things well. His positioning and runs are very intelligent. He has an above average left foot. His first step is pretty quick and creates space. However, that touch is almost always heavy, he has no pace (read one of the slowest players I've ever seen), after the first touch he is slow on the ball and his decision making. So that leaves positioning again and a nose for goal. We tried that with wondo and I feel the team needs to move beyond that type of player to be successful. Davies is a much better player in terms of skill and pace and I don't feel he belongs near the national team either. from what I saw in person, Juan is at a higher level than either of them, well he was anyway when he was playing with an actual team.

blaise213
Post #138
Thursday January 1, 2015 10:17pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,431
Just read a month old article about Robbie Keane encouraging Tottenham to sign Gyasi Zardes. I really think he needs to go to Europe to develop his game a bit more.

Even though Agudelo has been a ghost, I'd like to see

---Agudelo -- Zardes ---

Shea - Bradley - Nguyen - Bunbury

? ---- Jones -- Gonzalez - Farrell

------ Rimando ----------

TheTruth
Post #139
Thursday January 1, 2015 10:26pm

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
Yeah, I need to see Zardes go to a decent league in Europe before I'm willing to say he's going to be USMNT caliber. He got a ton of goals this year, but he didn't do much in the 2nd half of the season.

Not against a call up though.

PortCityFan
Louisiana
Post #140
Thursday January 1, 2015 10:59pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 176
--Zardes
--Dempsey
Shea-Nguyen-Farrell
--Bradley-Trapp
---Gonzales
Hedges--Jones
--Rimando

Working with the players I think would be called in, I plugged them into something I would like to see, a 3-5-2. Farrell would be likely to stay home and allow Dempsey to drift right like he prefers, still leaving creativity through the middle with Nguyen. Shea power runs the left side like he did for Dallas. Three center backs with size and grit, Bradley and Trapp protect and connect through the middle

hamsamwich
Post #141
Friday January 2, 2015 4:48pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 2,509
Should Juan come back to MLS or Mexico or Brazil to play and forget about Europe for now??

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #142
Friday January 2, 2015 5:05pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 9,238
Well at this point Juan should strive to go where he is wanted. I have heard of Bundesliga interest, Eredivisie interest and MLS interest.

MLS interest i.e. NYCFC seems to be the highest at this point.

hamsamwich
Post #143
Friday January 2, 2015 5:53pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 2,509
NYCFC that's perfect if he performs he can get called up to the big club and go out on loan in England. The first time I saw agudelo play I thought he was amazing, but he is sabotaging himself. New York would be good for him though in all seriousness.

navi8132
New York
Post #144
Friday January 2, 2015 5:56pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 2,694
Why would NYCFC do that? Since when do they sign players who clearly would rather play in Europe?

#banter

jabbajolly
Post #145
Friday January 2, 2015 10:32pm

Joined Nov 2014
Total Posts: 57
Original post from navi8132

Why would NYCFC do that? Since when do they sign players who clearly would rather play in Europe?

#banter


rimshot!

navi8132
New York
Post #146
Thursday January 8, 2015 3:19pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 2,694
I think Bob Bradley deserves some blame for the egomanic Juan turned into. Never give a 17 yo a USMNT cap unless an absolutely essential reason exists. If Juan doesn't sign with a club in the next 3 months he might as well consider going to college at this point and getting his degree.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #147
Thursday January 8, 2015 5:50pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
Original post from navi8132

I think Bob Bradley deserves some blame for the egomanic Juan turned into. Never give a 17 yo a USMNT cap unless an absolutely essential reason exists. If Juan doesn't sign with a club in the next 3 months he might as well consider going to college at this point and getting his degree.


So giving Jozy his debut at about the same age was also misguided? What about JK giving young guys like Green and Hyndman full caps? Considering how thin the striker pool was back then, I'm sure there are arguments to be made for the "essential reason" you require.

All of the top international teams do this, they bring in really young guys that have a chance to feature/make a future impact and show them what they're working toward and the level of play that will be required at this level, then let them go back to their club and don't call them back in until they've earned it with their club form.

navi8132
New York
Post #148
Thursday January 8, 2015 5:57pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 2,694
Yes, these were mistakes. IMO.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #149
Thursday January 8, 2015 6:21pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
Original post from navi8132

Yes, these were mistakes. IMO.


I think Jozy's form for the Nats, especially in the last 2-3 years, has been good, right? His EPL forays haven't worked out but in the Dutch league and for the US, he has been good if not great.

LD was also capped at 17-18, can't imagine anyone calling that a mistake.

I'm not going to try and say that the move can't and won't backfire occasionally like it seems to have done with Swag, but to damn the whole process because of a single "failure" is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

navi8132
New York
Post #150
Thursday January 8, 2015 6:25pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 2,694
What's the benefit to capping early? Unless they are NEEDED for a major tourney as LD was when he was young. Agudelo was capped after 2010 WC when it was merely freindlies. LD was necessary. Jozy's was not neccesary and had no bearing on his career whether or not he got that early cap. It's a risk typically not worth taking.
This is a safety precaution, yes to damning all 17-18 yo callups unless tourney exists (perhaps WCQs too) and player fulfills a needed role.

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