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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #1
Monday January 13, 2014 6:33pm

Joined Jul 2012
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2010 after the WC MLS had 2 major signings Henry and Marquez. There was talk of other big names but nothing really materialized.

Now 4 years later even before the WC starts MB90 and Defoe have signed for Toronto. Xavi looks to be close to a done deal for the Rd Bulls for after the WC. Dempsey signed in the summer of 2013. And many more big names are being courted; the last couple Drogba and Eto.

The fall of 2014 and winter of 2015 could bring many more big names to Orlando and NYCFC. Zlatan, Kaka, Sneijder, have all talked about coming to MLS. Howard and Jozy have stated they would like to come back to MLS in the future. You may see an influx of young talented Americans coming back to MLS in the next few years i.e. Gyau, Shea, Wood, Lletget, Diskerud. MLS financially will be able to throw their weight around for some young starlets in South America and or Asia. Most MLS academies will be at a stage where they are pumping out talented Americans/Canadians. And the potential adding of Miami in 2017 could spell even more big time signings.

Also Add in the next CBA where the Salary Cap could possibly double to triple what it is now. Their are plenty of MLS owners who want the capped raised into the 5 to 7 million dollar range.

If you are an MLS fan, you better hold onto your butts because the next four years is going to get crazy.

Fraser31
Charleston, South Carolina
Post #2
Monday January 13, 2014 6:43pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 1,404
I wholeheartedly agree. People bash the decision from Bradley to come back to MLS, and I agreed with them at first. But I think he's one of the firsts in a long line of quality players to start to jump the pond in the non-traditional direction. MLS, and more particularly USA, has a lot of desirable qualities for players. I'm looking forward to the league getting exponentially better over the next four years, but especially the next decade.

blaise213
Post #3
Monday January 13, 2014 6:54pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,926
I dont see MLS being anything bigger unless these owners start building bad ass stadiums.

The games literally look like SHIT on T.V. The camera angles suck because the stadiums are too small.

You want MLS to get big

1. NYCFC - 40,000 + stadium in queens
2. LA galaxy - 40,000 + stadium in downtown LA (replace NFL proposal)
3. DC United - 30,000 + stadium with a better design
4. Orlando City - 30,000 + stadium and partner with Disney

I could go on and on and on.........

and I will keep saying this. Sj Earthquakes need to make their new stadium an academy site and build the real stadium in downtown SJ.

That would be the perfect MLS model. Have a 10,000 - 15,000 seat stadium with an academy to play games: CCL (smaller teams), NWSL, Reserves, College games, and other sports to keep generating revenue.

Fraser31
Charleston, South Carolina
Post #4
Monday January 13, 2014 7:03pm

Joined Sep 2012
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I don't think the stadiums will pose an immediate hindrance on the growth of the league. I don't think there is enough of a fan base to fill those stadiums consistently just yet, but as the league gets more popular, and it will, they will need to make those adjustments. I think the quality of play should be improved before the money is put into the venues.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #5
Monday January 13, 2014 7:40pm

Joined Jul 2012
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The fanbase isn't that strong yet. One team has the capability to bring in 40,000 to 45,000 every game and that's the Seattle Sounders.

Nothing wrong with MLS' attendance numbers. MLS attendance is pretty strong.

blaise213
Post #6
Monday January 13, 2014 8:01pm

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You put a downtown stadium in San Francisco (and i mean downtown by the financial district) 40,000 seats with 4/5 World Class DP's - Thats a sell out every game.

49ers, SF Giants always sell out, and San Fran is bringing in the GS Warriors from Oakland who have sold out the last 8 years to a waterfront stadium in 2017

SF bay area in one of the best sports markets on EARTH!

(and as I said before, nobody from SF is going down to SJ quakes games.)

MSantoine
Post #7
Monday January 13, 2014 8:55pm

Joined Nov 2012
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I think with beckham's success and now Henry's you definitely could start seeing more and more star players come here. Im sure guys like Rooney once the UCL caliber teams stop calling will come right on over to make more money. Those guys are always a good thing for the league for now until its up and running as a top 5 league

joey11
Post #8
Tuesday January 14, 2014 12:34am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 278
Original post from blaise213

You put a downtown stadium in San Francisco (and i mean downtown by the financial district) 40,000 seats with 4/5 World Class DP's - Thats a sell out every game.

49ers, SF Giants always sell out, and San Fran is bringing in the GS Warriors from Oakland who have sold out the last 8 years to a waterfront stadium in 2017

SF bay area in one of the best sports markets on EARTH!

(and as I said before, nobody from SF is going down to SJ quakes games.)
If you can't fill a 40,000 seat stadium then every game will be blacked out in local tv markets then no one, soccer fans or just sports fans, will ever get to see their home teams playing on tv. What channel do you watch games? The camera angles aren't any different! That argument made no sense at all! By the way, lets see how your analogy or example of needing to be downtown next year with 49ers as they move away from the city. Will they still sell out?? Answer, yes!

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #9
Tuesday January 14, 2014 12:46am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,115
Plus its not like there aren't great cities to live in, in America.

Oh look LA!

Oh look NYC!

Oh look Miami!

oh look sunny Orlando!

The gall of these Americans! It's not called soccer !!! Its called football!!!

admsghs27
Post #10
Tuesday January 14, 2014 1:00am

Joined Nov 2012
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I do agree that some teams should have 40k plus stadiums. For example LA, NY, Miami, Portland, St louis if they get a team. I would say dallas but haven't proved their fan base. Seattle is set already. And yes if LA, NY,NE, Miami built a stadium in Downtown they would easily get 40k plus fans every game. LA plays about 1 hour away from downtown LA and i hate the fact that they can have 10-15k fans for mid week games because of cal state Dominguez. I think they should move the Xolos vs LA game to anther venue around, because that game will easily draw 50k Plus.

blaise213
Post #11
Tuesday January 14, 2014 1:06am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,926
Original post from joey11

If you can't fill a 40,000 seat stadium then every game will be blacked out in local tv markets then no one, soccer fans or just sports fans, will ever get to see their home teams playing on tv. What channel do you watch games? The camera angles aren't any different! That argument made no sense at all! By the way, lets see how your analogy or example of needing to be downtown next year with 49ers as they move away from the city. Will they still sell out?? Answer, yes!


You CAN'T put a 70,000 seat stadium in downtown SF. You can put a 40,000 seat stadium right next to the convention center (Financial district) because it could also be used for all the major trade shows. We have the top tech companies always hosting major events there.

The 49ers are moving to one to the richest areas in the bay area where their headquarters is located. I'm glad they moved. That was the shittiest location in all of San Francisco.

The camera angles are atrocious. NFL stadiums can broadcast from higher locations. I can't stand when the camera is up close on the players (FC Dallas, Colorado, SJ, columbus, montreal)

mandela
Post #12
Tuesday January 14, 2014 2:23am

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 62
Original post from blaise213

The camera angles are atrocious. NFL stadiums can broadcast from higher locations. I can't stand when the camera is up close on the players (FC Dallas, Colorado, SJ, columbus, montreal)


what? i think most disagree. more birds-eye type angles suck. i hate watching basketball games when the cameras on the roof of the arena. theres a reason courtside seats are the most expensive. the camera angles are the LAST thing MLS has to worry about.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #13
Tuesday January 14, 2014 3:25am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,356
Original post from EKneezy

Plus its not like there aren't great cities to live in, in America.

Oh look LA!

Oh look NYC!

Oh look Miami!

oh look sunny Orlando!

The gall of these Americans! It's not called soccer !!! Its called football!!!


Hahaha. I get a sense that the powers that be in England and European Football/Soccer are really worried about the potential of MLS. EPL especially does not want MLS to potentially take Fans/Money away from their pockets. The less potential fans care about the EPL the less money potential TV partners will be willing to give up for the TV rights.

They don't want MLS competing for potential players either. Hence why you here nothing good about MLS in Europe and England. Many MLS players/ coaches have stated that the demand for talented players from Europe wanting to come to MLS is very high. If MLS shows that they are willing to pay good money for players i.e. Deuce, Bradley, Henry, Beckham etc... the more willing players are take that risk to come Stateside and to Canada. Like I have stated in the past European players love the fact that they can live in Miami or LA or NYC or wherever in the States/Canada and actually be able to have normal lives outside of soccer. Plus you get a very high quality of life for yourself and your family.

Europe has lived in this bubble for over 50 years now of not properly being challenged from other countries and leagues; well it seems MLS is about to challenge that. It's not going over to well in Europe. The potential MLS has in the US and Canada money wise could potentially be NFL like in 20 years. NFL is the most profitable league in the world by a wide margin, If MLS could even be half as profitable they would dwarf the EPL profitability. Hell the Bundesliga has already taken over as the most profitable professional Soccer League in the world.

The Bundesliga is profiting at about 190 million Euros. The EPL is profiting around 121 Million Euros. NFL 1.16 Billion dollars in profit.

MLS has the potential to be the most profitable league in the world. Soccer is 2nd behind Football in popularity in this country between the ages of 12 to 25. Guess what: that audience is the future audience of MLS.

If I was European Football brass I would be worried too.

tylercocinas
Post #14
Tuesday January 14, 2014 3:48am

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,151
To me, they legitimately don't even see it coming.

I think Europe is way too cocky and entrenched in their ways ("old continent" mentality) to ever be worried about MLS until it's too late.

Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #15
Tuesday January 14, 2014 3:58am

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,424
When the MLS is one of the top 3 leagues in the world I will be a die hard fan til then I'll watch an occasional game. I'd rather watch top soccer.

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