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Post #196
Wednesday April 27, 2016 8:12pm

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Had to share. An amazing goal by Saul Niguez.

https://vine.co/v/iPmTM5KI6XM

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Post #197
Wednesday May 18, 2016 9:41pm

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Once again Sevilla. Champs o knew they would win it specially when Liverpool was their opponent. Dunlopp must be devastated with this results of Spanish teams walking through epl teams La liga is still miles ahead of epl and will most likely continue.

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Post #198
Wednesday May 18, 2016 10:10pm

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Original post from admsghs27

Once again Sevilla. Champs o knew they would win it specially when Liverpool was their opponent. Dunlopp must be devastated with this results of Spanish teams walking through epl teams La liga is still miles ahead of epl and will most likely continue.


You're an idiot. Look what I have at the bottom of every post of mine. I'm over the moon about this result.

Nice try though, kid! Next time!
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admsghs27
Post #199
Wednesday May 18, 2016 10:57pm

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Original post from dunlopp9987

You're an idiot. Look what I have at the bottom of every post of mine. I'm over the moon about this result.

Nice try though, kid! Next time!


Is ok i know your hurting don't worry maybe Leicester will win ot all next year hahaha lmao! !!

dunlopp9987
Post #200
Wednesday May 18, 2016 11:43pm

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Original post from admsghs27

Is ok i know your hurting don't worry maybe Leicester will win ot all next year hahaha lmao! !!


Wait, what is ok? Shouldn't there be a word before the phrase "is ok"? Like "football is ok", "spaghetti is ok", etc.

ESL is hard, I know.
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admsghs27
Post #201
Thursday May 19, 2016 12:25am

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Original post from dunlopp9987

Wait, what is ok? Shouldn't there be a word before the phrase "is ok"? Like "football is ok", "spaghetti is ok", etc.

ESL is hard, I know.


Ohh the wisdom pf Dunlopp reading is hard for you right. Sore losers will always make excuses or try to change the subject they hate facing the truth even if it's right in their face.

MSantoine
Post #202
Thursday May 19, 2016 11:18am

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Teams like Chelsea, Stoke City, Liverpool, Southampton, West Brom would all qualify for UCL if they were in La Liga.

No one is denying that Barca, Real, & Madrid are better than any EPL team. But after those three theres 10 or so EPL teams better than the 4th place team. Other than Villa no EPL team would ever get relegated from La Liga. Those bottom 7-8 teams are pathetic.

dolcem
Post #203
Thursday May 19, 2016 5:43pm

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Original post from MSantoine

Teams like Chelsea, Stoke City, Liverpool, Southampton, West Brom would all qualify for UCL if they were in La Liga.



Are you high? No offense but that is probably the dumbest post I've seen her in a long time. And that's really saying something.

I remember back in the days when it was the same four that qualified for the CL in the EPL every year (ManU, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool). They were all good teams but the rest of the league was utter shite. La Liga, on the other hand, had six CL caliber teams (Barca, Real, Atleti, Sevilla, Villarreal, Valencia). But people would say that it was a two-horse race, bla bla bla. Since then, the English league has fallen to shit. When was the last time an English team won the CL? All of their teams get eliminated before the quarterfinals every year. It's a complete joke. Leceister fucking City won their league with ease. And everyone talks about how "deep" it is.

Remember Michu? Bottom-tier Spanish player who came in and took the EPL by storm. Or remember that time Athletic Bilbao played ManU in the Europa League? Ferguson's ManU? They went to Old Trafford and played them off the fucking pitch. ManU scored a goal at the end to make it 3-1 but Bilbao should have won by 5 or 6.

How about Atletico Madrid? They were a mid-table Spanish team on a small budget with a failed manager (Simeone was terrible in Argentina). And he beat Barca and Real Madrid in the league and almost won them the Champions League. Now they have a shot at doing it again. This team, that dominates in Europe every season, is comprised of the same group of mid-table La Liga players that a few years ago were worth nothing. They've lost Diego Costa, Luis Filipe, and several other key players and they're better than ever. These were second-rate La Liga players and they are better than ANY team in England. No way anyone can argue that any English team is on the level of Atletico Madrid.

The EPL is a fucking joke and if you matched up every Spanish team and every English team, the La Liga team would won 3 times out of 4. There is no comparison between the leagues. You can't buy success. The English teams have higher salaries but thanks to homegrown rules, a about half the players have to be British, and the British players are complete shite. They're simply not on the same level as their Spanish counterparts in La Liga that make up the bulk of those teams.

Once again we'll have a Spanish winner of both cups. The EPL is on the verge of losing a Champions League place while Spain might end up with 5. The numbers don't lie. The only way to measure the leagues-continental competition-proves the gulf in class between the two. The Spanish teams simply beat out the other leagues' teams consistently. It's clearly the best league in the world.
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Post #204
Thursday May 19, 2016 7:27pm

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Original post from dolcem

The EPL is a fucking joke and if you matched up every Spanish team and every English team, the La Liga team would won 3 times out of 4. There is no comparison between the leagues. You can't buy success. The English teams have higher salaries but thanks to homegrown rules, a about half the players have to be British, and the British players are complete shite. They're simply not on the same level as their Spanish counterparts in La Liga that make up the bulk of those teams.



Hmmm. Chelsea were utter shyte this year and had 4 Spanish Internationals starting for them...as many as either Barca or Real I would imagine (I don't watch La Liga...too much flopping for my taste). So Spanish players are better?

Would they win 3 out of 4? Not likely. My guess is it would depend on the referee and who played whom. Let's take this place for place then using a two leg system where away goals would count double. This how I see it:

Leicester City v Barcelona
Arsenal v Real Madrid
Tottenham Hotspur v Atletico Madrid
Manchester City v Villarreal
Manchester United v Athletic Bilbao
Southampton v Celta Vigo
West Ham United v Sevilla FC
Liverpool v Málaga
Stoke City v Real Sociedad
Chelsea v Real Betis
Everton v Las Palmas
Swansea City v Valencia
Watford v Espanyol
West Bromwich Albionv Eibar
Crystal Palace v Deportivo La Coruña
AFC Bournemouth v Granada
Sunderlandv Sporting Gijón
Newcastle United v Rayo Vallecano
Norwich City v Getafe
Aston Villa v Levante

The way Leicester City play, they would give Barca problems, but Barca has too much quality. Most of the bottom half matches would be draws where goal difference would decide the winner, but there would not be too much between the sides IMO. So 3 out of 4 would mean 15 wins for La Liga, and I can see only 12.

And you are a little too general with Premier League rules...if you bothered to look at certain teams lineups, half the squads certainly are not English.

dolcem
Post #205
Thursday May 19, 2016 7:41pm

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How about this for size. Liverpool finished with 60 points, and since Klopp took over they've been much better (had he been around all season, perhaps they would have had 70ish points and would be fighting for CL qualification. Sevilla, on the other hand, finished with just 52 points. They had a very irregular league campaign this season because every game in La Liga is tough. But did any of you watch the match? Sevilla is just on a different level than Liverpool. There's no comparison.

Maybe only 12 of 20 Spanish teams would beat their EPL counterparts. I don't know. But under no metric is the EPL better than La Liga. Yes, there's more money, and bigger name foreign imports, but the game isn't played on paper. Institutionally, from the ground-up Spanish football is just better than English football. Period.

And no, Barcelona would have no trouble mopping the floor with Leceister. I don't think Leceister would have finished in the top half of La Liga.
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Post #206
Thursday May 19, 2016 8:09pm

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I'm not saying the premier league is better but everyone said leceister wouldn't finish in the top half of the Bpl either hahaha. Every league has their ups and downs... Right now the Spanish league is the best followed by the bundesliga then the premier league BUT in 3 years it could be the other way around. It doesn't really matter any of those three leagues are insanely hard to win and u need class players.

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Post #207
Thursday May 19, 2016 8:54pm

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Original post from dolcem

And no, Barcelona would have no trouble mopping the floor with Leceister. I don't think Leceister would have finished in the top half of La Liga.


Look at how Barca have struggled against Chelsea in the CL. Leicester City play a similar style to those Chelsea sides...they pack the defense, hunt in packs, and hit you on the break. Barcelona, for all their talent, only know one way of playing and struggle against this type of side.

I would gather with their mentality, hunger, and style Leicester could have finished 4th or 5th in La Liga this season

Know Nothing
Post #208
Thursday May 19, 2016 9:07pm

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Original post from dolcem

How about this for size. Liverpool finished with 60 points, and since Klopp took over they've been much better (had he been around all season, perhaps they would have had 70ish points and would be fighting for CL qualification. Sevilla, on the other hand, finished with just 52 points. They had a very irregular league campaign this season because every game in La Liga is tough. But did any of you watch the match? Sevilla is just on a different level than Liverpool. There's no comparison.



Yes and Liverpool had three matches the previous week and Sevilla had two. Sevilla had nothing to play for except this final while Liverpool was still chasing a European spot. Sevilla had the luxury of resting it's key players while Liverpool did not.

So Sevilla was on a different level for one night...playing on fresher legs.

One area the Premier League needs to improve upon is providing better rest for it's teams playing in Europe. La Liga would accommodate any team playing in a final by moving a fixture while the PL would not.

MSantoine
Post #209
Thursday May 19, 2016 9:11pm

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Just look at the UEFA Euro rosters (some are provisional).

11 EPL teams have at least 5 players participating. La Liga has 3 with that many.

Valenica, Sevilla, Bilbao are all sending 2 players to Euros.
Everton, Southampton-6
Reading, Stoke City-5
West Ham, Swansea-4
Bournemouth, Burnley, Crystal Palace, Derby Countym Newcastle, Norwich, Sheffield, Sunderland-3

In all 20 different clubs in EPL pyramid have at least 3 guys on rosters for the Euros (109 in total). La Liga has 3 clubs with that much (25 players).

Again Barcal, Real, and even Madrid are great teams and would qualify for UCL in EPL and probably win some/most years. But the rest of EPL would mop up the floor with La Liga teams. Those bottom teams have too many young, not great players due to the money issues

dolcem
Post #210
Thursday May 19, 2016 10:05pm

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Oh come on guys. Liverpool had just as much motivation for that final. The only thing that matters is Champions League. There is no way you can tell me that they were distracted for the final that would qualify them for Champions League because they were worried about missing out on Europa League qualification. The Europa League only matters if you win it and qualify for Champions League. That's where the money comes from, that's where players want to play. It will be much harder for Klopp this summer to recruit players because they missed out on Champions League.

We all know that the EPL has the best foreign (European) imports. So of course they'll have the most players playing in the Euros, etc. However, you didn't keep track of stats for Copa America, which I'm sure would favor La Liga. But more importantly, there's a lot more to a league than its foreign imports. The Premier League teams have insane amounts of money and buy quality players from other leagues, but that's just the sprinkling on top. The teams themselves just aren't good. The top teams, for example, get embarrassed in the Champions League every year even though they have the best squads in the world on paper. But the game isn't played on paper. You can't just buy a bunch of players from abroad and assume they will play well as a team. The local players and managers, the ones that still make up the base of a league, are simply much better in Spain than they are in England. And for that reason, all of the money in the world still hasn't enabled the EPL to overtake it as a league.
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