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4bc
North Carolina
Post #106
Monday December 16, 2013 8:26am

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 23
Wow... the last guy that still thinks Fabian Johnson can actually play LB.

oldkeeper
NY, NY
Post #107
Monday December 16, 2013 3:37pm

Joined Jun 2013
Total Posts: 165
Original post from chillguy1992

Simply had to be done. Tottenham was rumored to be consdering firing one Andres Villas Boas. It was reported that Klinsmann was one of the favorites to be hired at the tottenham job. He was very close to the tottenham chairman Daniel Levy and while he was actually going to take the job, get offered the job or not you cant take the risk of losing a Jurgen Klinsmann six months out of the world cup. So gulati made the hard decision he had to extend his coaches contract and make him technical director on top of that. Will it work out or not is hard to decide. With this hard world cup group its both a blessing and a curse for klinsmann. Its a blessing in that if he cant get past the group stage nobody will be mad at him. However its a curse because everyone on this thread, klinsmann and the players wants to get past the group stage which will be very hard. If anyone can do it it would be klinsmann good luck to him for the next six months preparing. In klinsi we trust.


Good call dude. Here you go...

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1653169/tot...

MSantoine
Post #108
Monday December 16, 2013 4:10pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,034
I dislike it but I do understand Gulati's line of thinking. If he didnt renew JK's contract, and he led USA out of the group stage and maybe even the QF's, underperforming teams would be throwing money at him and USSF would probably have to either walk away when they dont want to, or pony up a lot of extra $$$ to retain him. Who knows what the buyout/release clause is and maybe if US fails to make it out of the group stage they can release him for not too much money but it protects them from losing him to say Germany if they struggle, or Belgium/Bosnia if they dont take the next step which they are hoping to make.

Tactiaclly- Bad move
Business wise-Good move

Loche Achles
Post #109
Monday December 16, 2013 4:39pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 269
Original post from rainORshine

Loche - you have always seemed like a reasonable, up front kind of person

if you have an issue with someone and feel this is the correct forum to express that why not just address the individual(s)

otherwise, why not just give a thumbs up or down on the resign and call it good?

when you read b/t the lines of your post... looks like you are suddenly catching strain of belligerence that has become so popular...

question - over the last several months, which US performance (besides dos-a-cero, we do that every cycle) has given you the most confidence in the job JK is doing?

- bosnia?
- jamaica?
- panama?
- scotland?
- austria?


No Rain I wasn't targeting you specifically or I would have said it (as I have done before) but I don't like the word "targeting" as I think I maintain a civil environment here at all times. I do think it could include as at one point you were not a fan of Klinns and your love of Kljestan is well known (and I do understand/see your arguments so I get it, just disagree a bit) and many others have felt the same over Lichaj, Adu, etc... I haven't caught any "strain of belligerence".

I mean to be fair I have my own arguments with his selections, I'd like Chandler back in the side competing with Cameron for RB... But this is besides the point now.

I think overall what JK has done for the image, ideas, and confidence of US soccer is monumental and any of our wins I've been largely impressed with (plenty of exceptions of course)... And a lot of times he just has a way of tweaking at the half to get results.

Considering how US soccer has been developing I'm happy with JK for now. He fits this period well, which to me is a period of growing up from a below average program to a respectable/"one on the rise" program. Our player pool reflects that IMO. No amazing stars but a large base of solid players whose qualities are higher than the average we ever had before.

hamsamwich
Post #110
Monday December 16, 2013 8:00pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 431
We score on more than counter attacks and set pieces now under Jurgen. That alone is a reason to re-sign him.

tjsoccer93
Columbus, OH
Post #111
Tuesday December 17, 2013 6:00am

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 31
Original post from rainORshine

Loche - you have always seemed like a reasonable, up front kind of person

if you have an issue with someone and feel this is the correct forum to express that why not just address the individual(s)

otherwise, why not just give a thumbs up or down on the resign and call it good?

when you read b/t the lines of your post... looks like you are suddenly catching strain of belligerence that has become so popular...

question - over the last several months, which US performance (besides dos-a-cero, we do that every cycle) has given you the most confidence in the job JK is doing?

- bosnia?
- jamaica?
- panama?
- scotland?
- austria?


EXACTLY. it appears that rainorshine is one of the few people on here that get it. we are beyond the point where we should be praising our coach for getting us through qualifying and winning the gold cup. THOSE GAMES DONT MEAN SHIT. we should expect to win them all, in style, with the occasional screw up here and there. the coach should only be evaluated by his games against GOOD teams. if you look at our losses you will see that they are to teams that are halfway decent. every time we play good teams we lose. and the bosnia game? COME ON. they brought on a bunch of subs. and it was a friendly anyway they probably didn't care. and bosnia isn't any good anyway...how many bosnian players could any of us name off the top of our heads (without looking at wikipedia)? bosnia is probably on the level of panama. beating them is NOT a big deal.

Original post from hamsamwich

We score on more than counter attacks and set pieces now under Jurgen. That alone is a reason to re-sign him.


FALSE. under coach bradley that was our specialty. klinsmann said he would get us playing attractive soccer. now we play ugly soccer and we can't score on set pieces or counter-attacks either. that's because jurgen is an idiot who doesn't pick enough players with SPEED. how many caps did josh gatt get???? he should be an automatic starter. and he obviously isn't a good coach because omar gonzalez has not scored many header goals. if you can't get gonzalez to score on set pieces, you are obviously doing something wrong.

Chrisou101
Post #112
Tuesday December 17, 2013 6:38am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 554
tjsoccer93 is probably the new rain on this forum. You can't be serious on Gatt, just because he is fast does not mean he deserves to be on the team. look at his performences against canada and you'll see why.

tjsoccer93
Columbus, OH
Post #113
Tuesday December 17, 2013 7:47am

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 31
Original post from Chrisou101

tjsoccer93 is probably the new rain on this forum. You can't be serious on Gatt, just because he is fast does not mean he deserves to be on the team. look at his performences against canada and you'll see why.


remember how he played against RUSSIA? russian people ALWAYS want to beat the us...we had the cold war, space race, olympics...it was the big battle for the world and we beat them at everything and they'll never admit it but they are still pissed about that. one of my friend's dad is a russian and that's what he said.

and russia has a good soccer team so they were beating us and you know when happened? josh gatt came on and he BALLED. he never gets any chances because klinsmann is an idiot, he finally gives him a chance, and he's the best offensive player out there. he was the only one on the us attacking and you could tell he had blazing speed. and then klinsmann takes him off and NEVER gives him a chance again. he just clearly doesn't know how judge players.

Chrisou101
Post #114
Tuesday December 17, 2013 7:52am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 554
Uh yeah, thats because he got injured at molde. And no Klinsmann is not an idiot.

Chrisou101
Post #115
Tuesday December 17, 2013 7:53am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 554
And first of all Josh started the game against Russia and no he did not ball.

tjsoccer93
Columbus, OH
Post #116
Tuesday December 17, 2013 8:34am

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 31
yeah because he started gatt and never gave him any more chances. he got injured later. irregardless klinsmann should have played him WAY sooner. gatt should have gotten a lot of games in with us so if he got injured or something he could come right back and have no problems getting into the team.

coverby
Post #117
Tuesday December 17, 2013 9:12am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 68
tj, Gatt has gotten injured quite a few times either before playing with the Nats or training with. You are really just stuck in your blinders.

ktbffhTXac
Post #118
Tuesday December 17, 2013 6:04pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 124
Original post from coverby

tj, Gatt has gotten injured quite a few times either before playing with the Nats or training with. You are really just stuck in your blinders.


Don't feed the troll! He'll just keep coming back!

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #119
Tuesday December 17, 2013 6:29pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 4,845
I thought Gatt had a good showing against Russia. Too many people expected way to much from a player getting his first cap.

It's to bad he has had injury problems since.

ktbffhTXac
Post #120
Tuesday December 17, 2013 9:09pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 124
Original post from 2tone

I thought Gatt had a good showing against Russia. Too many people expected way to much from a player getting his first cap.

It's to bad he has had injury problems since.


I agree, and I don't think his showing against Canada was all that bad either. But like you said, the injuries haven't helped one bit. He's only 22 though so he's got plenty of time to regain his form and show his class.

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