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Techskillz416
Post #136
Wednesday December 18, 2013 3:40pm

Joined Aug 2013
Total Posts: 114
Original post from dolcem

This is another reason why I'm glad Klinsmann got the extension. If he didn't, if/when we crash and burn out of the group stage (it's the group of death and our team is not that good right now) than people like tj would be calling for his head.


I'm hearing that Hotspur are still trying to nab JK. Do you think this is true or just some odd ploy?? I mean i've seen in the past in many sports where a coach signs yet still leaves...

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #137
Wednesday December 18, 2013 5:16pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
It's possible that there's a clause in the new deal that would prevent someone from being able to poach him without paying a hefty fee, but I don't know if those or any details about the new contract (aside from the length) have been released/leaked.

If they were really worried about someone taking him away, a clause/binder like that would have been a no-brainer.

oldkeeper
NY, NY
Post #138
Wednesday December 18, 2013 5:21pm

Joined Jun 2013
Total Posts: 165
Original post from recycledhumans

It's possible that there's a clause in the new deal that would prevent someone from being able to poach him without paying a hefty fee, but I don't know if those or any details about the new contract (aside from the length) have been released/leaked.

If they were really worried about someone taking him away, a clause/binder like that would have been a no-brainer.


If Gulati didn't put an early out penalty clause in the new contract he's a complete idiot. Let's hope that Columbia doctorate counts for something.

Techskillz416
Post #139
Wednesday December 18, 2013 5:22pm

Joined Aug 2013
Total Posts: 114
Original post from recycledhumans

It's possible that there's a clause in the new deal that would prevent someone from being able to poach him without paying a hefty fee, but I don't know if those or any details about the new contract (aside from the length) have been released/leaked.

If they were really worried about someone taking him away, a clause/binder like that would have been a no-brainer.


I agree with you. But with Sunil Gulati anything is possible. He probably doesn't even know what a clause is lol. I just have an odd feeling that we have not heard the last of this. Until Tottenham selects a new manager, I will be monitoring sites to see if anything breaking news happens.

kicksNgiggles10
Birmingham
Post #140
Wednesday December 18, 2013 6:30pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 572
Original post from tjsoccer93

And the Bundesliga???? All it has is Bayern and Dortmund (recently)...name one other German team that has been any good at all over the past five to ten years.

The EPL probably five to ten teams that could play in the Champions League. It has PARITY because it has tons of good teams. And I would love to see Barcelona play against teams like Stoke. They'd just get pushed around.


Challenge accepted!

In the last 10 years here are 4 German teams (besides Bayern and Dortmund) with significant CL or EL appearences.

Schalke- CL (6) EL (2)
Leverkusen- CL (3) EL (5)
Bremen- CL (6) EL (1)
Stuttgart- CL (2) EL (5)

Here are the numbers for the EPL
I have ruled out Man U and and Arsenal to represent Bayern and Dort. I have also ruled out Chelsea because not until 2011 did the Bundesliga get 3 automatic spots to the CL like the EPL. This started in 08 for EPL. Before, The top two were automatic berths and the 3&4 spots were playoff round. Before 2011 Bundesliga top 2 were automatic berths and 3rd was a playoff. Thus the EPL had an extra team (Chelsea and Arsenal have the same amount of CL and EL apps)

This leaves 4 teams with significant numbers.

Liverpool- CL (5) EL (3)
Man C- CL (3) EL (2)
Tottenham- CL (1) EL (6)
Everton- CL (1) EL (3)

So based of this logic (if anyone wants to cal it logic. I was bored) The Bundesliga has been better, or at least as consistent with the EPL.

dolcem
Post #141
Thursday December 19, 2013 4:55am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,805
Original post from kicksNgiggles10

Challenge accepted!

In the last 10 years here are 4 German teams (besides Bayern and Dortmund) with significant CL or EL appearences.

Schalke- CL (6) EL (2)
Leverkusen- CL (3) EL (5)
Bremen- CL (6) EL (1)
Stuttgart- CL (2) EL (5)

Here are the numbers for the EPL
I have ruled out Man U and and Arsenal to represent Bayern and Dort. I have also ruled out Chelsea because not until 2011 did the Bundesliga get 3 automatic spots to the CL like the EPL. This started in 08 for EPL. Before, The top two were automatic berths and the 3&4 spots were playoff round. Before 2011 Bundesliga top 2 were automatic berths and 3rd was a playoff. Thus the EPL had an extra team (Chelsea and Arsenal have the same amount of CL and EL apps)

This leaves 4 teams with significant numbers.

Liverpool- CL (5) EL (3)
Man C- CL (3) EL (2)
Tottenham- CL (1) EL (6)
Everton- CL (1) EL (3)

So based of this logic (if anyone wants to cal it logic. I was bored) The Bundesliga has been better, or at least as consistent with the EPL.


Oh man what a HORRIBLE argument!!! CL appearances don't mean SHIT...all that means for some teams is that you qualified from an easy league. I'm talking about SUCCESS in the Champions League, not participation medals, and Schalke, Stuttgart, and Bremen have not looked dangerous in Europe for a LONG time. OK Schalke had that miracle sem-final run recently but they were a crap team and everyone knew it. The EPL has 5 teams that have EXCELLED in the Champions League in the past few seasons. There is no comparison between the EPL and any other league.
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dolcem
Post #142
Thursday December 19, 2013 5:09am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,805
Damn it I've been had!!!! Forgot to log out.

TJ was my DL. Was just having a little fun with it but I was already bored with him and wasn't going to post anymore after these threads died down a bit.
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dfw_fan
DfW
Post #143
Thursday December 19, 2013 5:39am

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 999
Original post from recycledhumans

It's possible that there's a clause in the new deal that would prevent someone from being able to poach him without paying a hefty fee, but I don't know if those or any details about the new contract (aside from the length) have been released/leaked.

If they were really worried about someone taking him away, a clause/binder like that would have been a no-brainer.

Per ESPNFC article, I think he is content with staying in the US,

"
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1655570/uni...

Klinsmann recently penned a new deal with the USMNT, which ties him to the nation until 2018. Despite interest from various European clubs, Klinsmann has no plans to leave the U.S. before his contract expires.

"Without naming any clubs: I recently had offers from Europe, also from Bundesliga. But I decide for this task. The contract extension means I will stay here. At least until the 2018 World Cup in Russia," "

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #144
Thursday December 19, 2013 3:39pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
Obviously it would be bad form to have just signed a deal and then to come out and say "yes I'm aware of the interest from Europe and would love to move!"

He's a diplomat as well as a coach/manager, and any negotiations about him leaving would be behind closed doors in a cone of silence.

dfw_fan
DfW
Post #145
Thursday December 19, 2013 4:07pm

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 999
Lol, Fantastic, First we have to compete for players, now coach as well?

Here is to another hope that he doesnt take THFC job and that he loves California weather.
Not to state the obvious, it would be a major blow for US program if he were to leave.

IMO, JK has been our Martinez...

http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/everton/id/1890...

kicksNgiggles10
Birmingham
Post #146
Thursday December 19, 2013 4:11pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 572
Original post from dolcem

Oh man what a HORRIBLE argument!!! CL appearances don't mean SHIT...all that means for some teams is that you qualified from an easy league. I'm talking about SUCCESS in the Champions League, not participation medals, and Schalke, Stuttgart, and Bremen have not looked dangerous in Europe for a LONG time. OK Schalke had that miracle sem-final run recently but they were a crap team and everyone knew it. The EPL has 5 teams that have EXCELLED in the Champions League in the past few seasons. There is no comparison between the EPL and any other league.


Are you serious man?! Damn, I actually liked you before. Unlike half the people here that b*tch at you all the time. Sad day....

Ps knew I was reaching what that anyway. Why do you think I only counted appearences?

dolcem
Post #147
Thursday December 19, 2013 5:28pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,805
Original post from kicksNgiggles10

Are you serious man?! Damn, I actually liked you before. Unlike half the people here that b*tch at you all the time. Sad day....

Ps knew I was reaching what that anyway. Why do you think I only counted appearences?


That was TJ, not me. I personally think the Bundesliga top-to-bottom is the strongest league in the world.
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kicksNgiggles10
Birmingham
Post #148
Thursday December 19, 2013 6:14pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 572
Original post from dolcem

That was TJ, not me. I personally think the Bundesliga top-to-bottom is the strongest league in the world.


Ohhhh, your alter ego?

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