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nolefansandy
Post #1
Thursday July 19, 2012 6:11am

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I know Diego Fagundez is from Uruguay but how long has he been living in America? Is there any chance that he could eventually become a member of the USMNT?

Bshredder
Post #2
Thursday July 19, 2012 3:35pm

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I've heard he is very far away from US citizenship and that Uruguay wants him

It's too bad for the US system but good news that MLS can develop a very good player for a solid team like Uruguay

nolefansandy
Post #3
Thursday July 19, 2012 6:57pm

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how badly do they want him, he seems to have the same story as Agudelo. Moved over to America at a young age. Joined a MLS Academy and became a Home Grown player

Nick4235
Boston, Mass
Post #4
Wednesday July 3, 2013 6:11am

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I know this is a well worn topic and people are tired of talking about this by here's an interesting interview with Fagundez on KickTv:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7MFCslQ4ceg&feat...

He talks the Revs and his international status. By now we all know that it's unlikely Diego will suit up for the US because of his citizenship situation but he show obvious frustration with the citizenship process and says, as Bshredder points out above, that he really has no clue when he'll get his citizenship but if he had it he would be honored to rep the US. He goes on to say that Uruguay was a great experience but the US has done so much for him. Don't know if that means he perfers the US or if he's just saying. Anyways it doesn't matter unless he gets citizenship and this is more of a post because I thought it was an interesting interview.

Jzaval01
Post #5
Wednesday July 3, 2013 6:50am

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Diego Fegundez only has a working visa right? if so doesnt that act or new law about legalizing people especially kids who have lived her since young get residence ? Heard it passed in one i forget whether senate or house of representative. But if it passes does that aid him in anyway or am i just talking of something else??

Rey Regicide
Post #6
Monday October 21, 2013 12:51pm

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I really, really, really, really hope this kid plays for US MNT. He has 17 goals in 56 games. And he's only 18. He's a true CAM and when he grows older and fills out more he'll be a central play making fiend. The kind that I hope Gil grows into as well. Here's a hypothetical, who would you rather have at this point, Luis Gil or Diego Fagundez? Imagine if he gets his citizenship and we benefit from having both underneath Jozy Johannson and Agudelo (providing they all pan out and stay relevant).

Sigh.

MSantoine
Post #7
Monday October 21, 2013 3:26pm

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Original post from nolefansandy

I know Diego Fagundez is from Uruguay but how long has he been living in America? Is there any chance that he could eventually become a member of the USMNT?


To answer the original question hes been living in massachusetts since he was 5 (so 13 years in the states). He complete all the schooling through high school here. Youd think that would be enough to make gaining citizenship a breeze but apparently not

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #8
Monday October 21, 2013 3:53pm

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Does Diego have a green card? If he hasn't had a green card for 5 years then he is of yet not eligible to apply for citizenship. It's on his parents if he doesn't have a green card. If his parents never filed for lawful permanent residence, then Diego doesn't have a green card.

Of course he can apply for a green card now that he is 18. But that can take a few years to go through. SO you are looking at around 20 years old when he gets his green card if he applies at 18. Then it takes 5 years from that point to apply for US citizenship unless he marries a US citizen in which case it will take 3 years.

If Diego has his heart set on playing for the USMNT then the earliest he could possibly play for the US is maybe at 23 or 24 if he marries a US citizen at 20 or 21 and stays in the US for that amount of time. If Diego wants to go to Europe before then, well then he will never be a USMNT player.

To be honest I think he will be a Uruguayan player.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #9
Monday October 21, 2013 4:02pm

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And I am not a proponent of easing citizenship for anyone. I am not naÔve. I know that it happens, but naturalized citizenship should not be taken lightly.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #10
Monday October 21, 2013 5:38pm

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Well, there you have it, Fagundez received his green card today. Which means in 5 years he can gain US citizenship. If he marries it will only take 3 years. He is 18 so in 5 years he will be 23. If he has ambitions to play for the USMNT then he will stay in MLS and the US for the 5 years. Conceivably he could possibly be on the 2018 WC team.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #11
Monday October 21, 2013 5:47pm

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Possible attacking wide middies/wingers for the 2018 WC team cycle:

Nagbe, Arriola, Zardes, Holmes, Fagundez, Bedoya, Zusi, Gil, Lletget, Junior Flores, Rubio Rubin, Brek Shea, Pontius. Yeah safe to say the USMNT will be quite fine in the creative attacking with speed department.

Anyone that is worried about the potential loss of Dempsey and Donovan after the 2014 WC, shouldn't be

Bshredder
Post #12
Monday October 21, 2013 5:54pm

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2018 World Cup? 5 years from now would take him after the World Cup by few months.

It's still an uphill climb for the US

Fagundez must

1) Stay in the United States for the next 5 years? How is he going to turn down huge offers from Europe? Remember, soccer is his career/livelihood. Money is important. National team soccer is a small factor in the equation compared with club soccer since that is what will pay the bills. Most likely, MLS will have to offer him a huge DP amount.

2) Fagundez must also turn down all Uruguay call-ups in official events (even youth NT events). A one-time switch is NOT an option for Fagundez since he can only switch to a nation he was eligible for when he first played international soccer. If he plays for Uruguay's U20 or U23 team in an official competition before he gets his American citizenship, he can't switch to the USA.

Again, I don't see it. Especially since he's likely out of the 2018 WC and certainly out of the 2016 Olympics and 2015 U20 WC.

It's just too much money and international soccer to bypass.

The real fault lies with his parents for not starting this process earlier.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #13
Monday October 21, 2013 6:00pm

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Original post from Bshredder

2018 World Cup? 5 years from now would take him after the World Cup by few months.

It's still an uphill climb for the US

Fagundez must

1) Stay in the United States for the next 5 years? How is he going to turn down huge offers from Europe? Remember, soccer is his career/livelihood. Money is important. National team soccer is a small factor in the equation compared with club soccer since that is what will pay the bills. Most likely, MLS will have to offer him a huge DP amount.

2) Fagundez must also turn down all Uruguay call-ups in official events (even youth NT events). A one-time switch is NOT an option for Fagundez since he can only switch to a nation he was eligible for when he first played international soccer. If he plays for Uruguay's U20 or U23 team in an official competition before he gets his American citizenship, he can't switch to the USA.

Again, I don't see it. Especially since he's likely out of the 2018 WC and certainly out of the 2016 Olympics and 2015 U20 WC.

It's just too much money and international soccer to bypass.

The real fault lies with his parents for not starting this process earlier.


It's simple: If he has ambitions to play for the USMNT and New England can pay him a comparable amount then sure he could turn down both Uruguay's advances and Euopean advances. He will be only 23 years old. And you're right I miscalculated about 2018. But, he would still be available for two more WC's i.e. 2022 and 2026 after 2018 for the USMNT.

But, yes like I stated I forsee him being a Uruguayan player, that's if they feel he is good enough, we must not forget about that.

Bshredder
Post #14
Monday October 21, 2013 6:08pm

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I'm sure he'd like to play for the USA. But it's probably not as high of a priority for him where he'd give up an opportunity to play in an elite European league and in return, have to fight it out with a superior national team (URG) as opposed to being a slam dunk with the U.S.

Personally, I think Fagundez is good enough for Uruguay's youth national teams. He may not be a starter but I think he'd be good enough to make the bench.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #15
Monday October 21, 2013 6:17pm

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Original post from Bshredder

I'm sure he'd like to play for the USA. But it's probably not as high of a priority for him where he'd give up an opportunity to play in an elite European league and in return, have to fight it out with a superior national team (URG) as opposed to being a slam dunk with the U.S.

Personally, I think Fagundez is good enough for Uruguay's youth national teams. He may not be a starter but I think he'd be good enough to make the bench.


I don't think he will be slam dunk for the US either if he was to choose to play for the USMNT. Come 2018 and beyond my thoughts are that the US will be an Elite National team.

Do I think Fagundez is good enough for Uruguay's youth team and going forward to the Senior National level? I have no idea because I don't no what they have at the youth ranks. I know what the US has coming down the pipeline, and Fagundez would have to fight for his place with the US as well.

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