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chillguy1992
Post #76
Saturday November 16, 2013 9:02am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 449
Evans isnt good enough at right back lichaj needs to start next game.
Ej was horrendous at left wing and is a striker.
Wondo is deffinetly not a right wing.
Klijestan isnt a cam however he is good at cm and I would like to see him start over jones.
Johannson was very good off the bench and should start next game.
Altidore played eh but hes still our number 1 striker.
Beasley did alright he was going up and down. Think fabian when healthy should be healthy when left back but Beasley will probably be left back at world cup.
Dikserud was good off the bench and I am hoping both diskerud and klijestan make the world cup. However klinsmanns tinkering makes me think he is trying to see which can handle the 8 and 10 the best.
Howard played very well.
CB was intresting and I think Gonzo did fine. Cameron was shaky but he doesnt reguarly play cb he should be tried at right back and lichaj should be played at left back against austria.
Bedoya was alright made a couple of good players but otherwise pretty quiet.
Not sure why wondo was substituted in before boyd was. Wondo should be having surgery right now and agudelo should have been called up.
Honest assestment of the game first 20 minutes and last 20 minutes were the best us looked goof everything else was not good at all. I thought us lacked a sense of urgency and a tie was a fair result to the effort given. Not good enough but not bad enough just wont cut it.

dfw_fan
DfW
Post #77
Saturday November 16, 2013 3:43pm

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 426
Original post from skangles

Good points, especially number 4. Cameron as a CM was the main take away from the game for me. He had two deep runs as a CB. His passing is crisp and his defensive instincts mean he can stay back while Bradley gets forward. He's had mixed results as a CM but out of all of Klinsmann's madness of playing players out of position Cameron at CM is one of the moves with the most potential in my opinion.

I feel sorry for Brad Evans, he simply isn't a RB. He doesn't have the pace to keep up with speedy attackers and was burned on several occasions today. When he gets burned he busts his ass to redeem himself. Sometimes he makes a play, often he fails. It isn't for a lack of heart or effort, he's just not a RB. If he's our RB in the World Cup and he gets burned to give up a goal it's not on Evans, it's on Klinsmann.

Lichaj wasn't really tested during his time. He didn't do anything wrong but it's hard to properly evaluate him based on that performance. I hope he gets more playing time against Austria.

I liked the Kljestan experiment from Klinsmann. Kljestan didn't do a great deal and it was another player out of position but I like that Klinsmann was willing to take a gamble to see how it worked out. That's the point of these friendlies.

I think Brek Shea is going to be one of the surprise inclusions on the World Cup roster irrespective of his playing time at Stoke. He's a guy who can completely change the game with his pace and Klinsmann loves him. As long as he's healthy I think he makes it to Brazil.

Finally, I cannot believe that ESPN followed BeIn's lead with their stupid in game highlights. These networks are clearly run by old men. If I wanted to see what was happening in the European games I could have easily fired up WatchESPN and watched any of them live. Or maybe I wanted to watch them on replay at which point they would have completely ruined it? These old execs are still living in the 90s. It must be frustrating to be a young person working for these networks.

Agree on Brek, maybe Stoke will ease him into the game after watching the performance atleast as a sub.

Were Twellman and Healy in different location and providing voice over? I could have sworn I heard commentary mix up for sometime.

rainORshine
Post #78
Saturday November 16, 2013 3:57pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,773
Original post from 2tone

Bob ley to Lalas: how do you asses Kljestan in that CAM role?

lalas: meh.



had to come back to this. i actually like lalas sometimes (unlike most who generally hate him all the time) but:
a) he is a punk
b) his analysis of tactics and personnel is a complete joke

his understanding of the game is amateur... and his take on kljestan is a perfect example of how his level of soccer sophistication are right on par with the average, not-too-well-informed USMNT fan... who generally have the same appreciation for sacha

lalas went out of his way to punk sacha before, during (half-time) and after the game - much like commentors on this site will go out of their way to be disrespectful of sacha.

again, here is what sacha did v scotland:
- caught in possession ZERO times
- completed 35 of 36 passes (sorry, missed 1 earlier)
- completed 11 of 12 (92%) forward passes (MB 89%, JJ 63%, mix 60%)
- set up jozy with best chance in 1st half with clever cushion header
- created 2nd best chance (1st half) by finding jozy with deft chip inside 18
- set evans free down right with perfectly weighted 1-touch
- set bedoya free down right with quick touch to unlock the defense

again, which starter had a better game, and why?

and remember kids - ALEXI LALAS IS A CLOWN. dont forget that

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #79
Saturday November 16, 2013 4:34pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 5,052
Ah yes Lalas is a clown because he doesn't praise Kljestan. Fact Kljestan had two passes in the attacking third. Two.

Like I have stated Kljestan will pass backwards and sideways. And what is a forward pass? Passing forward while he is in the defensive third to someone that is in the midfield has no validity. He was put in to be an attack minded CM. And he completed "two" passes in the attacking third.

Rose tinted glasses by Rain for sure.

A more telling factor is his heat map. And his heat map shows a majority of backwards and sideways passes. Of course you are going to have a high pass rating when a player plays easy passes. Yes he had "one" nice chip to Jozy, but that's about the jist of his attacking contributions.

I guess all the media analysts that stated that Kljestan was meh, and gave him an average rating are clowns as well.

Ratings for Sacha:

Espn 5.5: Had a one deft touch to set up Jozy, but didn't seem influential.

MLS: 6.5 : Same analysis as ESPN.

ASN: 5: Workmanlike performance, failed to really get into the attack, disappointing audition.

Goal.com: 2.5 out of 5 stars: Had a decent first half, but didn't really create anything in the attack for himself or the strikers.

Pretty much meh which = average player.

Sacha had an average game. Nothing to really praise or talk about. For a player that is trying to really convince Klinsmann he deserves to be a USMNT player his performances have been average. He was played as a CM against Panama, and he was quite average in that game as well. In fact for a player that has been a bit more defensive minded he was found wanting defensively in the middle of the park against Panama.

He is an average player, and always has been. Nothing wrong with that, but let's not talk him up in a game that was ugly and drab anyway. He did nothing to really make the game for the US. He ran aroung a lot. that's what I saw. Oh and he did have "one" nice chip to Altidore. But if that gets a player/Kljestan praise by supplying "one" nice pass then the bar you have set for that player is low anyways.

EKneezy
Post #80
Saturday November 16, 2013 4:39pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,861
The overreaction to this game is hilarious.

It's a friendly lets move on to the next FRIENDLY on Tuesday and see what this team has.

Things I'd like to see

Altidore johannsson pairing. Much more effective they play off each other well

Mix starting as a 10

Kljestan Bradley pairing

Brooks and Lichaj in the back

rainORshine
Post #81
Saturday November 16, 2013 4:40pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,773
Original post from 2tone

Ah yes Lalas is a clown because he doesn't praise Kljestan. Fact Kljestan had two passes in the attacking third. Two.

Like I have stated Kljestan will pass backwards and sideways. And what is a forward pass? Passing forward while he is in the defensive third to someone that is in the midfield has no validity. He was put in to be an attack minded CM. And he completed "two" passes in the attacking third.

Rose tinted glasses by Rain for sure.

A more telling factor is his heat map. And his heat map shows a majority of backwards and sideways passes. Of course you are going to have a high pass rating when a player plays easy passes. Yes he had "one" nice chip to Jozy, but that's about the jist of his attacking contributions.

I guess all the media analysts that stated that Kljestan was meh, and gave him an average rating are clowns as well.

Ratings for Sacha:

Espn 5.5: Had a one deft touch to set up Jozy, but didn't seem influential.

MLS: 6.5 : Same analysis as ESPN.

ASN: 5: Workmanlike performance, failed to really get into the attack, disappointing audition.

Goal.com: 2.5 out of 5 stars: Had a decent first half, but didn't really create anything in the attack for himself or the strikers.

Pretty much meh which = average player.

Sacha had an average game. Nothing to really praise or talk about. For a player that is trying to really convince Klinsmann he deserves to be a USMNT player his performances have been average. He was played as a CM against Panama, and he was quite average in that game as well. In fact for a player that has been a bit more defensive minded he was found wanting defensively in the middle of the park against Panama.

He is an average player, and always has been. Nothing wrong with that, but let's not talk him up in a game that was ugly and drab anyway. He did nothing to really make the game for the US. He ran aroung a lot. that's what I saw. Oh and he did have "one" nice chip to Altidore. But if that gets a player/Kljestan praise by supplying "one" nice pass then the bar you have set for that player is low anyways.


again - who was better? why?

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #82
Saturday November 16, 2013 4:44pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 5,052
Again your stats are flawed.

rainORshine
Post #83
Saturday November 16, 2013 5:11pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,773
Original post from 2tone

Again your stats are flawed.


how?

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #84
Saturday November 16, 2013 5:13pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 279
Original post from EKneezy

The overreaction to this game is hilarious.

It's a friendly lets move on to the next FRIENDLY on Tuesday and see what this team has.



Unfortunately I missed the game. I was at work and convinced the Vets to let me watch soccer and then we had a Psyc emergency and I ended up putting some dude in cuff and belt and missed the game.

Anyway, people are freaking out over this game on multiple sites. It's just one game folks. If we played this way for multiple games (Like Mexico) then it's time to get worried.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #85
Saturday November 16, 2013 5:38pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 5,052
Original post from rainORshine

how?


Because both Jones and Diskerud make riskier passes. Kljestan makes the easy pass. Even Bradley's passing is more expansive then Kljestan's is.

Look you are praising SK for an average performance. That's like praising someone at work for doing what they are supposed to be doing. SK did nothing that said hey we really need this guy in the starting 11 on a regular basis. He is tidy with possession, something we all know. He will look to keep the ball moving more often than not side to side and backwards, yet again something we all knew. Is he better partner for Bradley at Cm? Don't know. We will have to see him there in order to judge that.

Dimo
Post #86
Saturday November 16, 2013 7:19pm

Joined Nov 2013
Total Posts: 267
What a goal from Japan! I really enjoy watching them play. Kind of scary having a performance like we did yesterday and then seeing this.

Red
NY
Post #87
Saturday November 16, 2013 7:21pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 417
Don't worry Japan couldn't even beat Mexico at the Conf. Cup, they went winless. They are a good team, but not a great team. Anywhere between 14th-20th best team in the world.

rjw77
Post #88
Saturday November 16, 2013 7:50pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 265
The outlook on the state of the USMNT changes from game to game.

Red
NY
Post #89
Saturday November 16, 2013 8:29pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 417
I remember watching an Italy game, in 2011 or 2012, against the Faroe Islands(EUROQual). Italy won 1-0 but the FI could have won and even scored 2 or 3 goals. They were the better team. Italy was moving their feet but were in second gear for large parts of the game. As the 2nd half started they were going 100% and were lucky to win.

Later they went on to get to the European Championship Final against Spain. Most Italians take little to no stock in friendly games and even some WCQ/EuroQ. The Italians usually even start tournaments in second gear until they need to win.

Don't judge much from games that don't matter. Don't take a lot of stock in friendly games nor players performances b/c many of these players want to be fresh for next week's clubs games as a number of the starters yesterday KNOW they will be going to Brazil. That game or the next one won't make or break players such as Jozy,Bradley, Jones, Cameron, Gonzo,Evans, Howard, Beasley,ect...

You need perspective in games like the one yesterday the players to keep an eye on were Kljestan, Shea, AJ, EJ to some extent....

as for the next game I'm hoping he goes with more fringe players such as Shea, Brooks, AJ, Boyd, Bedoya, ect.... these are the players that need to make a mark. The others will go at 50%.

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