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rainORshine
Post #1
Sunday November 10, 2013 6:04pm

Joined Dec 2012
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i am very much hoping to see agudelo's name on november roster. if you look at his overall production in 2013 - 9 goals, 3 assists - it does not really catch the eye... but if you consider how much he actually played - only 17 starts and just over 1600 minutes, he actually was extremely productive.

i am against bringing young players in before they are ready and before they have really earned it, but agudelo now has 3 full professional seasons under his belt and seems to have made some massive strides in the last year... and has not yet turned 21.

this kid is absolutely a prodigy and i say time to set him loose and see what he can do.

i am VERY pessimistic about what is going to happen at stoke (stuck on the practice squad). i think he should have been STRONGLY advised to avoid that move. needs to be PLAYING

agudelo has the opportunity to be this generations landon donovan, but he needs the opportunity. for me the opportunity needs to come from JK now. agudelo not having at shot at 1st WC till he is 25 would be a shame

navi8132
New York
Post #2
Sunday November 10, 2013 6:09pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 3,122
Agudelo ego is massive. Call him up and you risk stunting his motivation to work hard. I am being dead serious. 20 swag pictures later, he's ready to leave practice early to pick up some new sunglasses.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #3
Sunday November 10, 2013 6:10pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,504
I am a fan of Juan. And I do hope he gets a call-up soon. Will it be for these November friendlies? possibly.

navi8132
New York
Post #4
Sunday November 10, 2013 6:27pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 3,122
With Jozy, AJ, EJ, and Boyd, do we usually call 5 strikers to freindlies?

rainORshine
Post #5
Sunday November 10, 2013 6:32pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 2,097
Original post from navi8132

With Jozy, AJ, EJ, and Boyd, do we usually call 5 strikers to freindlies?


absolutely no need to bring EJ into this camp. we all know what he can do and he is not a starter

(really wish seattle had advanced making this a moot point)

navi8132
New York
Post #6
Sunday November 10, 2013 6:44pm

Joined Jul 2012
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You know EJ is coming into camp. It's guaranteed.

navi8132
New York
Post #7
Sunday November 10, 2013 7:21pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 3,122
I strongly prefer Agudelo over Boyd. Keeps a cooler head during games and has better control of the ball and general technical ability.

blaise213
Post #8
Sunday November 10, 2013 7:56pm

Joined Sep 2012
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Original post from navi8132

Agudelo ego is massive. Call him up and you risk stunting his motivation to work hard. I am being dead serious. 20 swag pictures later, he's ready to leave practice early to pick up some new sunglasses.


Definitely 100% accurate on that! Watch is humbling interview after scoring his first usmnt goal vs south africa in 2010, then go watch a current interview. Dude talks like he has an extra 100lbs on him.

still a good player though!

Original post from navi8132

I strongly prefer Agudelo over Boyd. Keeps a cooler head during games and has better control of the ball and general technical ability.


I strongly prefer Boyd over eddie johnson. Every time eddie johnson gets the ball, he thinks he's in an "AND 1" commercial

thisguy2
Inland empire
Post #9
Sunday November 10, 2013 9:00pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 224
Boyd over agudelo and Eddie
Thisguy2
navi8132
New York
Post #10
Sunday November 10, 2013 9:04pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 3,122
AJ > Jozy > EJ > Agudelo > Boyd

Dam
Chandler, AZ
Post #11
Monday November 11, 2013 1:32am

Joined Aug 2013
Total Posts: 40
Original post from navi8132

AJ > Jozy > EJ > Agudelo > Boyd


Skill wise (total player) I'd rank them as follows:
Jozy > AJ > Boyd > Agudelo > EJ
Difficulty is that AJ, Boyd & Agudelo are inexperienced. I'm hoping that all 3 step up over the next 6 months and make a case for themselves in the 23.

thisguy2
Inland empire
Post #12
Monday November 11, 2013 1:45am

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 224
Don't understand why you guys rate agudelo over Boyd? Just cause he plays in MLS?
Thisguy2
2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #13
Monday November 11, 2013 2:12am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,504
Boyd is an 18 yard box striker. He has good passing skills, but really lacks dribbling skills. Decent movement. I would say he has moderate ceiling.

Agudelo can be an 18 yard box striker, a playmaker, and has far better dribbling skills than Boyd. I like both. But if I was to rate them I would say that Agudelo has more upside and a high ceiling.

EJ well is EJ. Best arial threat the USMNT has. Faster than both Agudelo and Boyd, and his hold up play is better than both.

All will be fighting until May to get on the WC roster. I think Klinsmann takes 3 strikers, and for me Altidore and Johannsson already have two spots locked up. EJ has the upper hand on both Agudelo and Boyd, but that can and probably will change before Klinsmann makes his final decision in May.

rainORshine
Post #14
Monday November 11, 2013 4:07am

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 2,097
to add to above...

think the beauty of agudelo is his versatility... can play several different roles in different formations. really makes him a nifty piece to have in back pocket.

on the other hand, not sure i can see boyd on the field with jozy at the same time, which really limits his usefulness

would love to see both get a long look for brazil, and think there is room for 4 forwards, but agudelo may be a more useful piece given what jozy and AJ can give you

Mojofc
Post #15
Monday November 11, 2013 4:33am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 966
2tone and rain on the same page. Interesting. I agree with both posts although I'm not sure we bring 4 forwards unless one of those is agudelo due to his ability to play more than one position.

Bringing Dempsey and LD limits the need for 4 strikers though.

Waiting for rain to say Findley should get a shot now after the way this game is going just to mess this peaceful thread up. (Joking... Joking...)
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