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recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #1
Monday October 28, 2013 2:01pm

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/art...

Crazy as it sounds, this will probably happen. The craziest part of all this is the English may start to look to American football as a "safer" alternative to rugby...

MSantoine
Post #2
Monday October 28, 2013 2:49pm

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This has been rumored for a while. Jacksonville Jaguars are leading canidates to be relocated to London. You can read many opinions on flights/scheduling issues. I could see it work with the new NFL. You could give them several thursday night games to give a half bye anytime they travel across the pond. And they should be able to schedule byes so if you go to london you have the bye the next week (they already do that now)/ With charter flights and private jets flying doesnt seem to effect teams to grately anymore anyways

dfw_fan
DfW
Post #3
Monday October 28, 2013 3:05pm

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One way to fill Jaguars stadium.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #4
Monday October 28, 2013 3:46pm

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I'd heard whispers but this seems to be the first real bit of news that could be considered a step down the path to making it happen.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #5
Monday October 28, 2013 4:29pm

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I see the team flopping after about 5 seasons.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #6
Monday October 28, 2013 4:39pm

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Without knowing anything about how a team like that would be incorporated into the existing league, I can't say that they will or won't be viable/sustainable...an interesting situation though.

MSantoine
Post #7
Monday October 28, 2013 5:10pm

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I think it could easily be supported. English people hate US for the most part. I think that you'd have the newness factor keep it alive and supported for 5 or so years, and then if they were decent by then theyd love the fact that they can "beat us at our game", similar attitude to when we beat them in soccer, only reverse. Must expansion teams have a pretty succesful run after 3 years or so (see Jax & carolina)

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #8
Monday October 28, 2013 5:21pm

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I think that if they could get some local players to feature for the team, then there shouldn't be any reason why they wouldn't be able to establish a foothold.

joey11
Post #9
Monday October 28, 2013 8:10pm

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I have thought this was the dumbest idea a while back when first rumors started. The NFL games each year are a novelty in England. After a couple years it would wear off and stadium would be empty. What will fans have to get excited about? They'd have no rivalry because the closet other team would be the USA based team closet to east coast. They'd have no travailing supporters and no homegrown players to cheer for, unless David Beckham becomes a placekicker! They toyed with this idea for Azteca stadium in Mexico, never happened. Besides, what NFL player is going to want to be based in London and travel so far? Can you image this schedule:
London-SF
London- Seattle
NE-London
London-KC
Dallas-London
etc..

great for frequent flyer miles but hell on recouping and rest!

stone88
Post #10
Monday October 28, 2013 8:19pm

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Original post from recycledhumans

I think that if they could get some local players to feature for the team, then there shouldn't be any reason why they wouldn't be able to establish a foothold.


Exactly! Are there any English football players that are anywhere close to being good enough for the NFL? Maybe if they convert some of their rugby guys? I think interest will wain, because it'll just be a bunch of americans just shipped over there to play for that team.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #11
Monday October 28, 2013 10:47pm

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Original post from stone88

Exactly! Are there any English football players that are anywhere close to being good enough for the NFL? Maybe if they convert some of their rugby guys? I think interest will wain, because it'll just be a bunch of americans just shipped over there to play for that team.


That's like asking how many Egyptians are in the league, or how many Icelanders...if the sport isn't in the ordinary sphere of influence in a specific market, why would you expect them to have any players? Starting a franchise there would automatically generate interest, and you'll never have to look beyond the English borders for a place kicker or punter. Combine that with maybe a scholarship program or two and you've got good English players with college experience getting in a team before the magical 5 year safety line.

Granted, they'll have to be smart for the first few years and results will probably suffer...but if they can take their cues from Houston and build a franchise from the ground up rather than trying to build a team for that specific year, then they should be able to create a sustainable program over there.

The travel issue is something else entirely, and one that I'm inclined to side with those who say that it's infeasible. However, footballers are doing this sort of thing any time that international matches are on the calendar, and they have a much more physically tiring job than an American football player.

MSantoine
Post #12
Tuesday October 29, 2013 2:19am

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People realize that NFL doesnt need to have homegrown players right?. They have the draft and free agency. Most NFL teams have probably 3-4 players from there local area. The biggest issue I foresee is the conversion rate. 2 mil USD doesnt go as far in England.

Riggity
Atlanta
Post #13
Tuesday October 29, 2013 3:17am

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Joey11- Besides, what NFL player is going to want to be based in London and travel so far?

Ummm, any player that is getting an opportunity to play in the NFL would jump at the chance to play on any team, including one in London. It might be a slight disadvantage in free agency but that can't be said until we have seen for sure. As far as anyone saying it will be a failure, that may be the case but the NFL has shown they are pretty smart, I just don't see them sticking their necks out to get embarrassed.

dfw_fan
DfW
Post #14
Tuesday October 29, 2013 3:45am

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I think this would be impractical to have England based players as they do not have a parallel American Football league, if anything almost everyone would have to come from the US and live in London. Besides, did they not fold the NFL Europe already?

Have to agree that this will fade away quite fast.

4bc
North Carolina
Post #15
Tuesday October 29, 2013 6:18am

Joined Feb 2013
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Not much here. Sounds like the Spurs are looking to compete for the current NFL exhibition games held at Wembley, not form a team. They've probably floated the notion that they'd be willing to host a few more of those games which I'm sure will get the NFL's interest. Beyond that, don't see any immediate path to a London team. NFL owners aren't dumb enough to push that button before its time. They'll only have one shot and they'll want to take it when they've at least quadrupled the current exhibition schedule and can show the ability to pack stadiums at the rate that supports an costly NFL franchise (50-70k). A Spurs deal is probably a step in that direction, nothing more.

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