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Post #16
Tuesday October 1, 2013 10:32pm

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Nope even with Lebron, bosh, wade and back to back champions, they still dont have a top 10 fan base in NBA let alone NFL, mlb.. A soccer team failed there before and will fail.again no matter what they do...

CBoyd3142
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Post #17
Wednesday October 2, 2013 3:15pm

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I live in the Southeast - while I'd jump at the chance to travel to ATL to see a soccer game, it would take a lot to market them successfully. Miami's likely the same. It's been mentioned before, but while other, arguably more popular sports franchises aren't exactly hitting on all cylinders, it's probable the MLS teams won't survive unless they find a way to get people in besides hitting the Latin crowd. I know, it seems like pulling the Hispanic fan base is a huge boon to ticket sales (and I'm sure it still is), but it's not going to keep a franchise in the black. Marquee signings and grassroots fan support are the key IMHO, but that's much easier said than done.
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bbakerxyz
Post #18
Wednesday October 2, 2013 6:11pm

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Beckham will get a team in MLS and it will be in Miami. He'd only have a team in LA, NY, or Miami and the 1st 2 cities are taken. He sure as $hit ain't living in Atlanta.

Miami definitely not a sports town, but neither is LA and the Galaxy do well. Of course the star power and the winning helps.

I think Beckham can get the star power in Miami. A lot of soccer players will want to live there, particularly those of Latin persuasion. Just like the Lakers are able to get guys to come to SoCal.

kjperuch
Post #19
Wednesday May 20, 2015 9:03pm

Joined Oct 2013
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Okay what's going on in Miami? NASL announce Miami FC coming to their league next season. Does this hurt David Beckham and his investors? The NASL team is being funded big time by Poalo Maldini and Riccardo Silva.

MSantoine
Post #20
Wednesday May 20, 2015 9:14pm

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I dont think it does anything. NASL is on the verge of serious trouble USSF is supposedly threatening to kick them out as they can only be a regional league unless they have teams in 3 (or 4, cant remember) time zones. NASL is becoming an eastern US league. They seem to unwittingly be falling in line as a minor league soccer league and letting USL move into the clear number 2 spot. My guess is NASL is not talked about much at all in 5-10 years

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #21
Wednesday May 20, 2015 9:26pm

Joined Nov 2012
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I'd have to think that this is a nail in the coffin for the MLS Miami franchise...if Garber has to go down there to try to make something happen with a stadium, things aren't looking good...

skangles
DC
Post #22
Wednesday May 20, 2015 9:57pm

Joined Jan 2013
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Beckham's first proposal with the pedestrian bridge linking to downtown sounded amazing. I would have made a trip to Miami just for the experience. The fact that they are now on plan C or D has caused me to lose interest. Bring on St Louis!

kjperuch
Post #23
Wednesday May 20, 2015 10:07pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 166
Original post from MSantoine

I dont think it does anything. NASL is on the verge of serious trouble USSF is supposedly threatening to kick them out as they can only be a regional league unless they have teams in 3 (or 4, cant remember) time zones. NASL is becoming an eastern US league. They seem to unwittingly be falling in line as a minor league soccer league and letting USL move into the clear number 2 spot. My guess is NASL is not talked about much at all in 5-10 years

I don't know, soccer is becoming more popular by the day in the US. MLS is going to stop expanding soon and more clubs like this NASL Miami team will be created. I have a feeling the NASL is going to start expanding fairly quickly.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #24
Wednesday May 20, 2015 11:06pm

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I just don't want to see the sport suffer when leagues start going to war. The main reason why soccer has failed time and again in the US is because prior leagues have always tried to compete against each other.

I am fine with NASL expanding as long as they adhere to a structured US soccer tier system.

snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #25
Thursday May 21, 2015 12:59am

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I'm worried about there being 30 MLS teams in a couple years and us not having the talent to make it attractive. Most games are already too boring to watch. It's not like any of the top 5 Euro leagues are trotting out 30 teams.
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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #26
Thursday May 21, 2015 1:23am

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Most European countries aren't one of the largest country by area in the world either. Talent will be there.

kjperuch
Post #27
Thursday May 21, 2015 1:26am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 166
I agree snipes, the size of the league I'd past it's max. The only way they can keep from having a war between the league's is by potentially merging with NASL and creating that promotion relegation system. They can cut MLS back to let's say 22 teams and bump the bad ones to the NASL and that would give them a 20 team league. Then that would allow teams like San Antonio, Sacramento and Indy the chance of moving up.

Forgive me I'm just speaking out loud. But I feel that would allow for more competitive soccer without hurting the sport. And you could still have your God forsaken payoffs.

skangles
DC
Post #28
Thursday May 21, 2015 1:50am

Joined Jan 2013
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Original post from snipes87

I'm worried about there being 30 MLS teams in a couple years and us not having the talent to make it attractive. Most games are already too boring to watch. It's not like any of the top 5 Euro leagues are trotting out 30 teams.


Personally I really liked the level of competition after the 2002 World Cup when the Florida teams folded and the league was down to 10 teams. The league is much healthier now but I still have very fond memories from back then.

blaise213
San Francisco CA
Post #29
Thursday May 21, 2015 2:22am

Joined Sep 2012
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Original post from snipes87

I'm worried about there being 30 MLS teams in a couple years and us not having the talent to make it attractive. Most games are already too boring to watch. It's not like any of the top 5 Euro leagues are trotting out 30 teams.


Up the salary cap and DPs and it wont be a problem

dolcem
Post #30
Thursday May 21, 2015 6:01am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,242
Original post from blaise213

Up the salary cap and DPs and it wont be a problem


Paying the same players more and adding in a couple of DP's is not going to drastically change the league.

Thirty teams is way too much. Sure, if in 100 years we have so much talent that we have 30 teams and it's still the best quality league in the world, that'd be great. But for now, we're trying to make the MLS a more competitive league, one that keeps our players in good enough form to play well in international competitions and serves as a springboard for the top European leagues. We want it to be the best it possibly can be and to close the gap with the top leagues. The continued the expansion is great for marketing but only further dilutes the quality.

Germany has hundreds of quality players and the Bundesliga only has 18 teams. Look at how many great Spanish players there are and they only have twenty teams. The same goes for Argentina...which actually just switched to a 30 team league and everyone here absolutely hates it. These are leagues with far more quality players than we have in the US and they keep their leagues to a normal size for a reason, and it's not geography. It's so they have competitive leagues, ones that serve their national teams and attract the best players.
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