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navi8132
New York
Post #211
Sunday September 7, 2014 10:51am

Joined Jul 2012
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Might be a case of a player not being as good as we think. Don't just assume club team managers are insane.

MSantoine
Post #212
Sunday September 7, 2014 11:18am

Joined Nov 2012
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Pretty bad to only get a cameo appearance.

skangles
DC
Post #213
Sunday September 7, 2014 3:49pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,391
He's been with his new club for a week, I wouldn't read too much into his limited playing time yesterday. However, why Huddersfield loaned him out is debatable.

hamsamwich
Post #214
Sunday September 7, 2014 4:30pm

Joined Oct 2013
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He should go to Holland.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #215
Monday September 8, 2014 2:12pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
Original post from admsghs27

Lol clicked on the other thread. But yes league 2 it worse than usl. His game will drop from there. He should come to mls.


January 2016, I could see him making that call if nothing is happening for him in Europe...but definitely not before then.

Mojofc
Post #216
Tuesday October 7, 2014 3:37pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 966
Duane Holmes decided to RT this: "............... If the people we want to defeat are defeated, they might be replaced by people we like even less. And all this was started by us invading a country to drive out terrorists who weren't actually there until we went in to drive them out. Do you understand now?" This is in regards to IS.

Think it or not, this isn't something an athlete should be RT'ing. Much less some kid who's yet to make it at any respectable level.
Rain, rain, go away Come again another day - USMNT, MUFC
recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #217
Tuesday October 7, 2014 3:58pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from Mojofc

Duane Holmes decided to RT this: "............... If the people we want to defeat are defeated, they might be replaced by people we like even less. And all this was started by us invading a country to drive out terrorists who weren't actually there until we went in to drive them out. Do you understand now?" This is in regards to IS.

Think it or not, this isn't something an athlete should be RT'ing. Much less some kid who's yet to make it at any respectable level.


Is it any less or more so for a politician to RT? Or an actor? What about a soldier? Our society has bred a culture in which every person out there thinks that they have to make sure that anyone listening knows their opinion. That is, at least in some small part, why we're all here in the message board...we like hearing different opinions but we all like to have our opinions heard.

Nothing we can do about it though, as long as Twitter brings us the "once in a blue moon" Arab Spring, we have to endure the mindlessness of the rest of it.

But I'm genuinely interested in hearing about Holmes, how's he doing at Bury?

Rey Regicide
Post #218
Tuesday October 7, 2014 4:05pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
Original post from Mojofc

Duane Holmes decided to RT this: "............... If the people we want to defeat are defeated, they might be replaced by people we like even less. And all this was started by us invading a country to drive out terrorists who weren't actually there until we went in to drive them out. Do you understand now?" This is in regards to IS.

Think it or not, this isn't something an athlete should be RT'ing. Much less some kid who's yet to make it at any respectable level.


I understand your point, and respect it, but if I may ask, why shouldn't he be talking about this?

or tweeting... well if he's at practice he really shouldn't be tweeting... and perhaps if the team restricts access to twitter in general.

hamsamwich
Post #219
Tuesday October 7, 2014 4:18pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 2,765
MojoFC - it appears Duane Holmes has a pretty good grasp of the situation.

What do you care what he thinks anyways? He's a soccer player as far as I'm concerned- what do you not like him anymore because he doesn't agree with you on an issue? Let him lace up his cleats and perform on the field.

Just because he is on loan in league 2 doesn't mean anything- next thing you know people will crap on Hyndman when he has to do the same thing soon. Let Chris Powell coach Holmes in January when he returns to Huddersfield and then go from there.

navi8132
New York
Post #220
Tuesday October 7, 2014 5:56pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 3,011
The middle east is a EXTREMELY hot button issue. He would have been wise to not say anything (better for his career to be honest), sad but true.

Mojofc
Post #221
Tuesday October 7, 2014 5:57pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 966
I won't speak about the actual situation over there, but I also didn't feel like typing up the entire RT.

People in spotlight whether they are businessmen or athletes generally should try and avoid makin comments on such things. Their opinions not only effect them but also their employers.

That's my only thought on this. Simply not smart. If Ronaldo or even Bradley/Dempsey made a comment like this it would spark controversy.

I'll post it all later but generally speaking about the IS and even slightly defending them as they behead innocents may not be a brilliant idea as a public figure.
Rain, rain, go away Come again another day - USMNT, MUFC
Rey Regicide
Post #222
Tuesday October 7, 2014 6:05pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
I don't see any slight defense. But let's not talk about that issue

If Clint said, hey we need to "insert political ideologue" Then he will get judged on it, just like Nash, just like Schilling. Athletes, unlike soldiers, are still civilians and have a place in the public discourse, no? I mean if they say something that is not in alignment with investors, fans etc, isn't it better that the people know? More knowledge about what you're putting your capital in. Be it financial or emotional investment.

MSantoine
Post #223
Tuesday October 7, 2014 7:07pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,723
Athletes aren't scholars. They always say stupid things. They're also entitled to their own opinion and can always speak there mind if they desire. Free speech. He didn't offend anyone. Not did he spread incorrect information as if it were true.

chillguy1992
Post #224
Tuesday October 7, 2014 8:10pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,118
Personally as a former college athlete who was warned numerous times about saying anything controversial by coaches on facebook or twitter Duane Holmes should have known better. Your an athlete everything you say or do is done under the microcism. If you screw up, say something slightly controversial, or be arrogant your brand takes a punch. There are countless examples of athletes saying or doing something dumb. For some of them it doesnt hurt them for others it can kill their careers and lose the respect of coaches and teamates. What Holmes did was pretty minor but it should be a lesson. Athletes now are starting to be held to a higher standard then they did before which is good thats the way it should be its a privilege to wear the uniform of your school or carry the torch professionally.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #225
Tuesday October 7, 2014 9:29pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 9,835
Yes the US created a vacuum in Iraq, but the rub is that the vacuum was created by the US pulling out way to soon.

ISIS is evil pure unadulterated evil. The US created the vacuum for ISIS to seize, but the US did not create ISIS.

Everyone acts like what ISIS is doing is new in that part of the world? It's not new. It's just that now it's in your face on a bigger scale.

Beheadings, genital mutilation of women, stoning's, killing of free thinking Muslims, Christians, and any other religious sect has been going on for decades and generations.

News flash: there are evil people in the world. There are evil people who seize control of large groups of people and captivate them all into one evil mind set. Religion is the easiest portal and incubator for large masses of people to be swayed into killing their fellow man.

When ISIS is defeated could it be replaced by an even more brutal organization? Absolutely, but that doesn't mean you don't fight that evil. If anyone thinks we should leave ISIS alone and allow them to slaughter thousands more people, and allow them to take over the Middle East, not only would we have to fight a much more bigger and more dangerous foe in the future, but you are asking for the American government and public(me) to turn there backs on thousands of innocent people who are in the way of the storm that is ISIS. You all could be fighting ISIS in the future if we just sit on our coaches and put a policy in place of appeasement. What do you think will happen if that organization gets multiple nuclear war heads? Those Nukes will be pointed right at us.

Duane Holmes has a right to his opinion just like anyone else.

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