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oldkeeper
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Post #1
Tuesday September 17, 2013 2:06pm

Joined Jun 2013
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Howard has long been the best US keeper but Guzan is really on form the last two years. A nice problem to have but the choice between the two is tough. My thought is that only because Howard was there first and hasn't made major mistakes is he still there. In a straight up competition with them both starting from scratch, Guzan has the edge. What do you guys think?

Regardless, they're both great and world class. Here's them both making the BPL top 5 saves of the week

http://www.nbcsports.com/soccer/premier-leagu...

CBoyd3142
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Post #2
Tuesday September 17, 2013 2:57pm

Joined Aug 2012
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Rumors are Howard retires from the international game after the WC, opening the door for Brad. My guess is that, if it's true, Howard has locked his spot until after that point.

As far as who's better, it's very hard to read. Howard plays for a better team who defends better than Villa who leave Guzan a bit more vulnerable. That being said, it's allowed Brad to show his stuff more often than Tim. If I had to give someone the edge, it's Howard. From what I've seen, his split-second reactions and ability to distribute so accurately after a save does it for me. Guzan is soooo close to his level though. Definitely a good problem to have though.
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ktbffhTXac
Post #3
Tuesday September 17, 2013 4:34pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 124
Guzan. I love Big-time-Timmy-Jim but when I look at the games he's played in over the past year for the US, I've been a little disappointed. He's on the decline and I think it might be time to start phasing him out. That being said, I don't think it'll happen given his leadership on the pitch, and the fact that he's still a class keeper. I'll reiterate that it's a good problem to have and that if one goes down with an injury or suspension, then the other will be there to fill in with no loss of quality.

oldkeeper
NY, NY
Post #4
Tuesday September 17, 2013 4:42pm

Joined Jun 2013
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Yeah, I think we get the crazy cat like reflexes with Tim, which will decline over time. He's just a stupid good athlete. Guzan has better positioning and form, which gives keepers longevity. Look at how long guys like Van der Saar, Oliver Kahn, Buffon have (or did) last. More of a classic keeper. They both rock.

skangles
DC
Post #5
Tuesday September 17, 2013 4:47pm

Joined Jan 2013
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Really tough to argue against Timmy after the Mexico game barring injury or a terrible drop in performance the job is his. As mentioned in this thread, it's a great problem to have.

EKneezy
Post #6
Tuesday September 17, 2013 4:56pm

Joined May 2013
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I've stuck to Howard and I'll keep doing so until after the WC. He's a stalwart in the net for Everton. Guzan will get his chance.

For those who wanted Guzan in, Timmy showed up big in the Mexico game.

logicoverall
Post #7
Tuesday September 17, 2013 5:02pm

Joined Feb 2013
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I'm very comfortable with either of them in net, but I like Howard as our starter for now. He'll start the WC barring an injury.

Mojofc
Post #8
Tuesday September 17, 2013 6:06pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 680
Howard until 2O14, if Timmy doesn't retire at that point from international duty, I'd let them compete all out from then on.
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Techskillz416
Post #9
Tuesday September 17, 2013 6:19pm

Joined Aug 2013
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I'll take Guzan. Howard is an all time great representing the USSF. But it's something about him. I think it's seeing him screaming and yelling at his players...but then will make a total bonehead mistake and he gets quiet. That kinda rubs me the wrong way. There is something calming about Guzan that I like, always in control and in great form.

ktbffhTXac
Post #10
Tuesday September 17, 2013 6:54pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 124
Original post from EKneezy

I've stuck to Howard and I'll keep doing so until after the WC. He's a stalwart in the net for Everton. Guzan will get his chance.

For those who wanted Guzan in, Timmy showed up big in the Mexico game.


He did show up big in the Mexico game, but he kind of had to after a lackluster performance against CR. Part of that was due to his back line, but he was horribly out of position on that 3rd goal.

tardis91
Post #11
Tuesday September 17, 2013 8:53pm

Joined Jun 2013
Total Posts: 84
Howard is an amazing athlete and has great reflexes, but his position is sometimes horrible and there are times he doesnt come out when he should, and others he is overly aggressive. That said he makes a couple great saves a game that a lot of keepers could not get to. He does yell a lot but I dont know how the players respond to that, some might respond well but others might not, thats something the players would have to answer. Quicker off his line for through balls and his distribution is better.

Guzan is the same all the time, he comes for crosses and corners and is aggressive all the time. His positioning is better and he is more calm. His distribution is getting better and he has pretty good reflexes. He doesnt always get the ball out of the box when he comes for it. He is slower to react to the balls path when its played through on the ground. He has had pretty much no help with the way Villa play and the defense they have.

Timmy unless he gets injured or his form drops dramatically will be the keeper through the WC. After that I think he either retires or they open the competition back up.

Brad will be the keeper at some point for the USMNT but I think its too early to bench Howard at this point. We need Brad since Klinsmann seems to really love Johnson and Hamid who IMO are just not up to par YET and considering their age they may not get there.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #12
Wednesday September 18, 2013 1:56pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,153
Original post from CBoyd3142

Rumors are Howard retires from the international game after the WC, opening the door for Brad. My guess is that, if it's true, Howard has locked his spot until after that point.


This is the best way to go, Howard wants to go out at the top of his game and Brad probably has the next 2 WCs in the bag.


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