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joey11
Post #16
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:42pm

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still don't understand their qualify draws! Both Egypt and Ghana should be in WC. One will not! I agree skangles, but they won't. Egypt will get punished because of crisis, not of their football association doing, but they won't punish Ghana for having a stable and safe country. Question is, what nation is going to want a potential stadium attack by waring factions from Egypt?

skangles
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Post #17
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:54pm

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I'm not trying to be ironic given the Port Said riot early last year but I'm not aware of any fan incidents occurring in game that endangered the opposition at any point throughout Egypt's qualification process. And let's be honest Egypt hasn't exactly been stable the past two years.

Conversely, Mexican fans hurled all kinds of objects at Bryan Ruiz in their game against Costa Rica and Mexico was able to host the remainder of their home games without sanctions. If FIFA grants Ghana's request, I'll be infuriated.

This isn't about Ghanaian safety, it's about exploiting a political situation to provide Ghana with a massive advantage. If it's truly about safety then Ghana should offer to play both games on neutral ground. If not, suck it up and play in Egypt.

It's perfectly reasonable for Ghana to ask FIFA to ensure additional security is available to protect their team and fans. It's completely unreasonable for them to ask for the game to be moved to gain the advantage.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #18
Tuesday October 8, 2013 10:05pm

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The Egyptian FA has a duty and responsibility to make the call on whether or not the crowds can be controlled, as the safety of the fans is always the most important issue. Granted, they were placing a detrimental reliance on the police (according to many reports, the instigators of the riot) to be able to keep order.

joey11
Post #19
Tuesday October 8, 2013 10:08pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 278
Original post from skangles

I'm not trying to be ironic given the Port Said riot early last year but I'm not aware of any fan incidents occurring in game that endangered the opposition at any point throughout Egypt's qualification process. And let's be honest Egypt hasn't exactly been stable the past two years.

Conversely, Mexican fans hurled all kinds of objects at Bryan Ruiz in their game against Costa Rica and Mexico was able to host the remainder of their home games without sanctions. If FIFA grants Ghana's request, I'll be infuriated.

This isn't about Ghanaian safety, it's about exploiting a political situation to provide Ghana with a massive advantage. If it's truly about safety then Ghana should offer to play both games on neutral ground. If not, suck it up and play in Egypt.

It's perfectly reasonable for Ghana to ask FIFA to ensure additional security is available to protect their team and fans. It's completely unreasonable for them to ask for the game to be moved to gain the advantage.
I would agree about most of that but remember, one place set ablaze and destroyed was their federations headquarters, So, not that there would be problems Ghana could point to that and asked is it safe? would extra security help? Remember, it's the opposition fighting that very security force. I do think they are taking advantage of situation but i could see FIFA worried is the security forces going to cause more of a problem? Remember they had to suspend club play due to security concerns. I hope they play in Egypt but I could understand if they rule to move it but not Ghana's home leg.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #20
Tuesday October 8, 2013 10:18pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
Original post from joey11

I would agree about most of that but remember, one place set ablaze and destroyed was their federations headquarters, So, not that there would be problems Ghana could point to that and asked is it safe? would extra security help? Remember, it's the opposition fighting that very security force. I do think they are taking advantage of situation but i could see FIFA worried is the security forces going to cause more of a problem? Remember they had to suspend club play due to security concerns. I hope they play in Egypt but I could understand if they rule to move it but not Ghana's home leg.


Bob said it best himself in an interview he did with John Oliver on The Daily Show. The only thing that can unite the country is that everyone wants to get to the World Cup.

skangles
DC
Post #21
Wednesday October 9, 2013 3:22am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,443
This article is from last year but its back on ESPN's website along with news about Ghana's request.

It's an excellent read.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?...

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