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Post #16
Monday September 16, 2013 1:54pm

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Original post from Kamphgruppe

This seems like an overreaction to a couple of mediocre games. He would need to have bad form for both club and country for an extended period of time before I would consider sitting him.


Yup. People are overthinking this one.

Know Nothing
Post #17
Monday September 16, 2013 6:55pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 316
Bench Dempsey? Depends on the opponent and the tactics. The player pool is now big enough and dynamic enough to accomodate a variety of styles. As far as I am concerned, only Bradley and Howard are locks to start any match.

navi8132
Post #18
Monday September 16, 2013 7:19pm

Joined Jul 2012
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No, Jozy and Bradley and Donovan.

Lykou11601
Post #19
Monday September 16, 2013 7:22pm

Joined Mar 2013
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Howard's form has been inconsistent as of late. Guzan is a beast. Timmy isn't safe anymore. I agree with navi on Jozy, Bradley, and Lando. I'd add Fabian Johnson as well

tardis91
Post #20
Monday September 16, 2013 7:24pm

Joined Jun 2013
Total Posts: 84
Dempsey is the kind of player that you yell and scream at to do something other than flop down and stare at the ref for 80 minutes. Then all of a sudden he gets a big goal through his movement. Its always going to be that way because thats who he is as a player. Benching him if his form doesnt improve is the right move but there is a lot of time between now and the WC.

navi8132
Post #21
Monday September 16, 2013 7:30pm

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Fabian Johnson is a little inconsistent to me to be considered a lock. Also, pressure seems to get to him a bit.

Ironman
Post #22
Monday September 16, 2013 8:41pm

Joined Sep 2013
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Dempsey is tied for 7th, with five others, in goal scoring during 2014 WCQ making him, arguably, one of the top strikers in the world. And some are actually suggesting he be benched?!?

navi8132
Post #23
Monday September 16, 2013 8:52pm

Joined Jul 2012
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he's not an actual striker.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #24
Monday September 16, 2013 9:01pm

Joined Nov 2012
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CONCACAF is a second tier region, I don't think being tied for 7th in WCQ goals makes you one of the best in the world. Say that about someone in CONMEBOL or UEFA and you've got a point.

Know Nothing
Post #25
Monday September 16, 2013 10:02pm

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Total Posts: 316
Original post from recycledhumans

CONCACAF is a second tier region, I don't think being tied for 7th in WCQ goals makes you one of the best in the world. Say that about someone in CONMEBOL or UEFA and you've got a point.


CONMEBOL maybe, but remember UEFA has juggernauts like Andorra, San Marino, Lichtenstein, Luxembourg...

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #26
Monday September 16, 2013 10:20pm

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Original post from Know Nothing

CONMEBOL maybe, but remember UEFA has juggernauts like Andorra, San Marino, Lichtenstein, Luxembourg...


True, but you're not going to see any of those teams' players on the goals scored leaderboard. Credit though on CONMEBOL, probably the most competitive federation around.

MSantoine
Post #27
Tuesday September 17, 2013 1:51am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,950
Original post from recycledhumans

True, but you're not going to see any of those teams' players on the goals scored leaderboard. Credit though on CONMEBOL, probably the most competitive federation around.


No Ronaldo gets a hat trick vs Malta and know hes a UEFA goal scoring leader. Deon McCauley from Belize is the current WCQ goal leader. In 2010 i was a guy with a dumb name from Fiji.

Jzaval01
Post #28
Thursday September 19, 2013 12:03am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,223
How many people saw this about clint
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBDrQVE414w

Hard to believe he missed that penalty with Mexico seeing this. Clint plays soccer with a passion and plays his heart out day in and out because he plays for something in his heart the loss of his sister and the opportunity he got. I think once its World Cup time he will be in the top of his game

Ironman
Post #29
Tuesday October 22, 2013 6:21pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 13
Original post from navi8132

he's not an actual striker.


Striker, forward, semantics. When he plays up top with Altidore he is a forward, not an attacking midfielder. It's when him and Altidore (or any two forward combo for that matter) are paired up top the U.S. has played well.

Any other formation, like the 4-5-1 the U.S. rolled out against Bosnia and Panama, for example, do the U.S. play horribly.

Dempsey has always been better up top. I'm not saying he can't play wide in the midfield, or anyway on the field, and be effective. He is better as a forward. The man played right-back in the MLS combine before he was drafted and didn't look out of place.

Ironman
Post #30
Tuesday October 22, 2013 6:32pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 13
Original post from recycledhumans

CONCACAF is a second tier region, I don't think being tied for 7th in WCQ goals makes you one of the best in the world. Say that about someone in CONMEBOL or UEFA and you've got a point.


Really?

Which 4th place team in any UEFA group is better than Mexico?

Paraphrasing Know Nothing, South America is better than CONCACAF, it is a region that definitely goes five deep (with regards to qualifiers). Of course with Brazil it's six.

I don't think Africa, Asia, or Oceania are better than CONCACAF. Yes, there is Ivory Coast and Ghana, but Ghana is the only one to do anything.

What separates UEFA from CONCACAF is numbers. Nine groups versus one means 18-30 top teams (again separated into different groups) versus four (maybe five with Panama). I would even favor Jamaica over any of the 6th place teams in UEFA and some of the 4th or 5th place teams.

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