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tylercocinas
Post #16
Friday September 13, 2013 8:18pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 704
Did not realize I pretty much restated everything 2tone said. Guess I should be a bit more thorough reading the thread before posting ha.

Techskillz416
Post #17
Friday September 13, 2013 8:19pm

Joined Aug 2013
Total Posts: 114
I would love for USSF to get involved and develop lower divisions here in the States for in the hope that one day in the future we can actually have relegation. There are tons of cities that could support a team. Sort of like our Minor League systems in baseball, if you market it the same way where it is 100% fan friendly, have a nice small soccer stadium know that one day you could actually be playing in the highest level of soccer and teams like NY Redbulls, Union, Galaxy, and Sounders could be here...plus Tourney's where they would actually have to travel there anyway, I think it would be a huge success... Plus it is very clear IMO that fans are being turned off to MLB, you never know how long you will be at a game, the pace is brutal..and food over priced...fans are getting into the fact that you will be at a game just barely over 2hrs..and its all action...

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #18
Friday September 13, 2013 8:28pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,105
Would you be opposed to one of the American Premier League team owners buying a majority stake in an expansion team? Seems to me that this would be the best route to go, you'd essentially be able to combine your youth development programs and would almost certainly increase profitability of those youth players, because you have two showcases for their talent rather than just the one, or the choice of a loan.

Loche Achles
Post #19
Friday September 13, 2013 8:40pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 269
Atlanta doesn't support its teams and neither does Florida (minus Orlando City). Both these places are riddled with poorly attended or folded franchises (Jaguars, Bucs, Thrashers, Falcons [even though they are good!], Dolphins post 90's...) They are all transplants and the worst fair weather fans. Anywhere else in the South would be a better idea (NC or TN best IMO). The problem is Florida doesn't count as the Southeast. It is its own country and has nothing in common with the rest of the area. Miami is the world's largest night club and no one there has time for sports.

Blank has the cash but his ownership of MLS won't be ambitious. Orlando City deserves it because they've proven they have the fans. Otherwise they need to pick better areas.

skangles
DC
Post #20
Sunday September 15, 2013 1:38am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,855
ESPN is reporting that the Miami bid is currently lagging behind the Orlando and Atlanta's bid as it does not include a stadium.

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1553020/mia...

Dylema
Seattle, WA
Post #21
Tuesday September 17, 2013 5:15am

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 7
I believe Orlando City will be one of the teams that get an expansion spot. Beckham is guaranteed to be awarded a team is he not? That would mean Miami would have to be in as well. As for Atlanta I'm not sure how that would really go, but I would personally prefer Charleston or Charlotte to get the team to build on what those two clubs already have going for them.

tylercocinas
Post #22
Tuesday September 17, 2013 6:24am

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 704
Original post from Dylema
I would personally prefer Charleston or Charlotte to get the team to build on what those two clubs already have going for them.


Charleston doesn't really seem like a "major league" city, although the have some of the best support in the lower tiers. Additionally from a subjective point of view, Charlotte doesn't seem to have a greater than normal interest in their USL club that might prompt one to consider them for an expansion club.

Dylema
Seattle, WA
Post #23
Tuesday September 17, 2013 8:10am

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 7
Original post from tylercocinas

Charleston doesn't really seem like a "major league" city, although the have some of the best support in the lower tiers. Additionally from a subjective point of view, Charlotte doesn't seem to have a greater than normal interest in their USL club that might prompt one to consider them for an expansion club.


I found some numbers and it appears that Charlotte were pretty far down the attendance table. Charleston on the other hand is smaller then Salt Lake in terms of population (I think that's the smallest market) and they averaged 1k less then the Silverbacks of Atlanta.

Non-MLS top 10 markets in order of attendances from a lower league team:
Cosmos (NYC2 Fill in) (NASL)
Orlando City (USL)
San Antonio(NASL)
Rochester (USL)
Minnesota United (NASL)
Atlanta (NASL)
Carolina (NASL)
Tampa (NASL)
Ft. Lauderdale (NASL)
Charleston (USL)

If the numbers from the Cosmos translate to success for NYC2 then it looks as if it will be a smart move, although it won't have the famous brand behind it. Orlando also appears to be a smart choice occupying the second spot. Ft. Lauderdale(Miami) at number 9 gives a strong case for itself and well David Beckham will likely get his way with a team in Miaimi regardless.

After that San Antonio could have a case for Texas#3, they also have a stadium plan in order. Cary NC and Charelston SC make the cases for the Carolina's to get a team. Minnesota would be an interesting place for a team in an area that doesn't really have an MLS team. Then of course the favorite for an expansion slot, Atlanta, are perched fairly high up the table and with deep pocketed owners it seems like it could be the way the league is headed.

MSantoine
Post #24
Tuesday September 17, 2013 11:35am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,043
The only problem for Minnesota, and Detrot too, is a lack of nearby rivals. Rivalries are the backbone of sports. Thats what makes PDX/Sea/Vancouver so great and why they are adding more teams to NY. If they gave Minnesota a team theyd really need to bring in Detroit at the same time and maybe St Louis to add some midwest rivalries

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #25
Tuesday September 17, 2013 2:15pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,105
The star power of a David Beckham owned team might just give Miami the boost it needs to get some traction...use his good relationship with Raul and bring him over from Saudi on a two year deal and let him join the coaching staff after the contract is over. Two years might be a bit optimistic for him but that's a major star that would bring a lot of the Miami crowd out. I'm sure there are plenty of others that would fit that bill as well but it's early and he's the first to have to come to mind.

mattgerlach
Florida
Post #26
Tuesday September 17, 2013 4:49pm

Joined Mar 2012
Total Posts: 13
As a transplant to the Panhandle of Florida (Panama City) I have grown to understand the true nature about sports here in the south, college football. With that being said the closest franchise to me currently is Houston, a 11 hour drive and a 11 hour drive from Atlanta. Atlanta's closest current team would be DC at a 9 hour drive, or with projections Orlando, 6 hours. We are NOT a soccer community compared to Fort Wayne Indiana and Central PA where I've also lived. However, we have a USL team the Panama City Pirates who have around 1000 people coming to home games. The southeast CAN support 3 new teams, they just need to be marketed correctly like the past few franchises have been.. It'll still be hard for me to get to games seeing that Atlanta and Orlando are still 5 hours away. Guess I'll just have to keep flying around the country to USMNT games!

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