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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #1
Friday September 13, 2013 3:58am

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Don Garber stated last night at the Toronto game that 3 out of the next 4 expansion teams have been decided.

Now there is a report out that Atlanta and Arthur Blank are in significant talks with MLS about getting an Expansion team.

What do you guys think?

skangles
DC
Post #2
Friday September 13, 2013 4:28am

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I feel like hitting 24 teams without having a team in St Louis is disrespectful to our heritage. I don't think that St. Louis is one of the four but it should be.

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #3
Friday September 13, 2013 4:30am

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I live in Atlanta and I'm on the fence if a MLS franchise can survive here. Blank has deep deep pockets but those who live here know that no one is from here. Give or take 60 percent of the city and suburban areas around are made of people who aren't from here.

Plus besides the Braves and Falcons, college football rules in the Southeast.

skangles
DC
Post #4
Friday September 13, 2013 4:33am

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NBC was speculating that two of the teams would be Orlando City (no surprise) and a Beckham owned Miami team.

If Atlanta also get's a team, going from zero teams in the Southeast to three in one go seems a bit risky.

Maybe Garber is hoping that there can be a Southeast rivalry amongst the expansion clubs similar to how strong the Pacific Northwest 3-way rivalry has become but I just don't see that happening.

logicoverall
Post #5
Friday September 13, 2013 4:40am

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Make the Carolina Railhawks an MLS franchise. There's always going to be a young crowd to support them in the NC college triangle, and soccer has grown in popularity quite a bit in NC in the last few years.

I agree that St. Louis should have a team.

And as a Pittsburgh fan for all things sport (minus soccer), I would love to see a team come to the steel city. Pittsburgh's gotten to be a bit of a young cultural center in the last 10 years, and there has never been a legitimate professional sports franchise in Pittsburgh that has not made money, and carried a solid fan base. That's a long long shot, and nobody's talking about it. It's just this fan's dream scenario.

Fraser31
Charleston, South Carolina
Post #6
Friday September 13, 2013 4:49am

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North/south Carolina as well as Georgia have good soccer roots. Maybe not the best players but at least good fans. The southeast has been dying for a team to support. They'd take anything at this point.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #7
Friday September 13, 2013 2:14pm

Joined Nov 2012
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I've heard Indianapolis and St. Louis being floated, I'm curious to find out if his statement excluded the already announced NYCFC, if so then both Indy and STL could be possible with this news from Atlanta. I agree that either NC or SC would be the best option in terms of regional parity and have no doubt that either would have a loyal fan base.

Personally, I want to see the Austin Aztecs becoming an MLS franchise. Talk about college support...Austin doesn't have any top tier pro teams, without verifying any facts and going with my gut I'd say that the Aztecs are the closest thing they've got. You've got a lot of people there with a lot of passion, but for traditional American sports...? I think not. Soccer could fill that gap...

CBoyd3142
Probably far from where you are...
Post #8
Friday September 13, 2013 3:06pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 320
Original post from EKneezy

I live in Atlanta and I'm on the fence if a MLS franchise can survive here. Blank has deep deep pockets but those who live here know that no one is from here. Give or take 60 percent of the city and suburban areas around are made of people who aren't from here.

Plus besides the Braves and Falcons, college football rules in the Southeast.


Agreed, I'm not far from there and I question Blank here. As much as I'd love to travel to ATL and watch, I feel like there would only be a big amount of hype for the first month or so before the other sports took over. Kind of like the XFL back in the day....
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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #9
Friday September 13, 2013 3:19pm

Joined Jul 2012
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From what I understand they are considering a second roof to cut of the top tiers at the new Falcons stadium a la BC place in Vancouver. The remaining seats would be in the 27,000 range. I think that's a very good idea because you wouldn't see a cavernous stadium.

I think MLS could succeed in Atlanta.

navi8132
New York
Post #10
Friday September 13, 2013 3:35pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Miami team would attract the european and southamerican party crazy soccer players of the world.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #11
Friday September 13, 2013 4:19pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Hasn't that been tried before? The only teams to have folded and not be "reborn" were both FL franchises, one in Miami.

I do agree that it's an area ripe with opportunity, but you really need a soccer-specific stadium ASAP, an ownership team that has roots in the community and a great working relationship with local and county elected officials, a management team that focuses on building a team from the ground up - with youth, and a front office team that knows how to market the hell outta that team to get the butts in the seats. But that's a winning formula for any new team. I do think we need an East Coast alternative to the Latino/Hispanic oriented side that is Chivas USA.

skangles
DC
Post #12
Friday September 13, 2013 5:08pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,412
Original post from navi8132

Miami team would attract the european and southamerican party crazy soccer players of the world.


I agree and yuck. Do we really want to relive the Lothar Matthaus experience?

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #13
Friday September 13, 2013 7:25pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,079
http://soccer.si.com/2013/09/13/mls-expansion...

Article saying ATL is a likely MLS franchise destination

blaise213
Post #14
Friday September 13, 2013 7:39pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,842
I HATE having MLS owners or "potential" MLS owners that own other sports franchises. MLS is always second rate to them.

Atlanta is going to build a world class stadium for the Falcons. Problem is that were back to the "turf" bullshit, too big of a stadium, and NFL will have priority.

Not only is this a BAD location, its not even being done the right way.

For this to work, 2 stadiums need to be built....

The new stadium is being built right next to the old stadium......

tylercocinas
Post #15
Friday September 13, 2013 8:17pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,151
Original post from blaise213
I HATE having MLS owners or "potential" MLS owners that own other sports franchises. MLS is always second rate to them.

Atlanta is going to build a world class stadium for the Falcons. Problem is that were back to the "turf" bullshit, too big of a stadium, and NFL will have priority.

Not only is this a BAD location, its not even being done the right way.

For this to work, 2 stadiums need to be built....

The new stadium is being built right next to the old stadium......


What about Paul Allen, owner of the Seattle Seahawks? Sure you could refute that with Kraft, but he's a stingy guy with NE Pats as well (minus Brady, whom he had to pay or risk the ire of his fan base).

Secondly, based on what I have read, there will be a retractable roof which can cover the top bowl of the stadium thus making it around 27,000 seats for the MLS club.

Obviously no way to know whether they'll build that retractable roof for the upper bowl, but the ownership group does seem to understand the reality of why its not a good idea to have an MLS club playing in such a cavernous stadium and they have a plan to alleviate the negative effect of doing so. All that being said, big promises in the game of soccer are nothing new, I think we all recall Qatar saying they were going to build air-conditioned stadiums and now look where we are with that :/

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