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Post #46
Tuesday September 10, 2013 6:49pm

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Original post from cudevil

I think you are misremembering if you don't think that EJ was on everyone's start list after he burst on the scene and that everyone felt comfortable with him as a starter or super sub.


well, everyone but me and bruce arena, and probably a lot of other people.

brian mcbride and LD were basically lock starters at forward through that time period.

josh wolff was next in line (and the only other forward to make an appearance at 06 WC)

ching and twellman were getting just as much PT as EJ - all 3 of those guys were essentially fringe players who never really "broke through"

dstones77
Hagerstown, MD
Post #47
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:02pm

Joined Mar 2013
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Original post from Loche Achles

Yes well I remember when EJ came on the scene and was one of these guys. Except back then the standard was much lower, as was the technical requirements, and all people got hyped up for was some speed and physical attributes (anyone remember Charlie Davies?)

AJ is a player raised within successful youth programs and has played in more technical leagues with impressive goal to game ratios. EJ is alright in a decent league and is a poor team player.

I would prefer AJ not because he "deserves" anything but just because I think he offers more to the team with his ability to link and pass. Only think I see EJ has over him is probably strength; but his technique is so poor is doesn't help him keep the ball anyways.


Nailed it.. the standard is higher

dstones77
Hagerstown, MD
Post #48
Wednesday September 11, 2013 2:15am

Joined Mar 2013
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And now I eat my words. But that's okay. Still the only two good things EJ has done all game are both his headers on corners. Class goal though

navi8132
Post #49
Wednesday September 11, 2013 3:26am

Joined Jul 2012
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This is not anything new about Eddie Johnson. Headers and strength on the ball. Nothing new. Mexico was a lethargic, lazy team who did not know how to apply pressure on defense or offense. I am shocked that when Eddie came off Aron J didn't come on. Is he really that far down the depth scale according to "golden touch Jurgen Klinsmann" (did you guys see that averted answer by donovan to the reporter's question, that smile was priceless)

dunlopp9987
Post #50
Wednesday September 11, 2013 6:47am

Joined Mar 2013
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Original post from navi8132

This is not anything new about Eddie Johnson. Headers and strength on the ball. Nothing new. Mexico was a lethargic, lazy team who did not know how to apply pressure on defense or offense. I am shocked that when Eddie came off Aron J didn't come on. Is he really that far down the depth scale according to "golden touch Jurgen Klinsmann" (did you guys see that averted answer by donovan to the reporter's question, that smile was priceless)


Except it was Mix who came on for EJ, and it was Mix who provided the stellar assist for Lando.

I would say JK pretty much nailed it, there.
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blaise213
San Francisco CA
Post #51
Wednesday September 11, 2013 7:31am

Joined Sep 2012
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I honestly wouldve started

Diskerud for beckerman
AJ for dempsey

Techskillz416
Post #52
Wednesday September 11, 2013 1:27pm

Joined Aug 2013
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This is exactly why i argued for EJ. Again I never said AJ would not become a class USMNT player, my argument was simply stating that EJ has proven his worth and will ALWAYS get the nod over AJ until his form starts to decline or he is injured.

I will say that, now that we have qualified, AJ may get some time in the starting XI. I think now is the perfect time to experiment. Bring in a few new faces, some old faces, see what you have.

Lilshmike
Post #53
Wednesday September 11, 2013 1:46pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 504
EJ scored, you cant argue that.

I think Johannsson deserves a shot, and should get one in the October qualifiers since we already secured Brazil. Jamaica would be a good game to have him in since an introduction to the team, in a WCQ, on the road, in CONCACAF, at Panama, would be difficult.

Like I said before, both have good and bad things about them. It all depends on how you want to utilize them. I like EJ's speed and ability in the air. He may be the best attacking player on our team in the air (Gonzalez, Goodson CBs are clearly up there).

However, I also like that Johannsson is good at improvising and creating chances. That and he is young and hungry. He has something to prove. He took a big risk and made a huge decision from a professional and personal perspective to play for the USMNT.

I'm sure he wants to be able to prove to everyone that he made the right choice and that he did it for a good reason...

ktbffhTXac
Post #54
Wednesday September 11, 2013 2:06pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 124
I really like Icebacon and wish he would've gotten subbed on, but there's no denying EJ's worth. He's a solid option at any of the attacking positions with his speed, aerial ability, and workrate.

logicoverall
Post #55
Wednesday September 11, 2013 2:13pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 207
Original post from ktbffhTXac

I really like Icebacon and wish he would've gotten subbed on, but there's no denying EJ's worth. He's a solid option at any of the attacking positions with his speed, aerial ability, and workrate.


I think you meant to say that he's a solid option at ONE attacking position. He's still shit on the wing. Nice goal last night, but he's definitely still something of a one-trick pony.

Lilshmike
Post #56
Wednesday September 11, 2013 2:16pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 504
Original post from logicoverall

I think you meant to say that he's a solid option at ONE attacking position. He's still shit on the wing. Nice goal last night, but he's definitely still something of a one-trick pony.


More than a one-trick pony, but I agree. He can only really perform as a forward and is still not good as a left midfielder. He could play on the left in a 3-forward system, but still, not his best position.

navi8132
Post #57
Wednesday September 11, 2013 2:35pm

Joined Jul 2012
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I never made the point that it could only be either EJ or AJ on the field. In that game there was room for BOTH! Bedoya did not have to be on the pitch. And I hate to say it but Dempsey was a waste of space the entire game...

dunlopp9987
Post #58
Wednesday September 11, 2013 6:26pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 809
Original post from navi8132

I never made the point that it could only be either EJ or AJ on the field. In that game there was room for BOTH! Bedoya did not have to be on the pitch. And I hate to say it but Dempsey was a waste of space the entire game...


He's been a waste of space for club and country since he moved back here.
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tardis91
Post #59
Wednesday September 11, 2013 6:48pm

Joined Jun 2013
Total Posts: 84
Nothing really new here EJ is good in the air and if thats what your looking for he should probably start. He dribbles into bad positions has little to no idea of hold up play and his passing is pretty awful in most situations. That said he is fast works hard and is good in the air like I said he should be in the 23 as a sub but IMO is not good enough to start, not saying that AJ is, but his qualities suit JKs system much better than EJ.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #60
Wednesday September 11, 2013 6:52pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Both have qualities that will be needed for a deep WC run.

I would imagine AJ will get some serious minutes against both Jamaica and Panama.

I like what EJ brings. He makes an opposing defense honest because they know EJ has the speed to get in behind. Right now he is probably the USMNT's best aerial threat. He will work hard, and doesn't shy away from physical battles.

I like what AJ brings: He is creative, has quick feet, and exceptional passing skills. He needs to get better with the physical side of the game, and will. He can score with his head and both feet.

Like I said both will be needed at the WC.

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