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tardis91
Post #1
Thursday September 5, 2013 5:39am

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Taking a break from all the WCQ talk, I though Id ask your guys opinions. I like watching different styles and how the opponents play against different managers. With that said I was curious as to who you guys and gals think is/are the best managers in the world. Could be at the international level or club level or both. For me its either Jurgen Klopp, Frank De Boer, Antonio Conte or Michael Laudrup. So what do you think?

dolcem
Post #2
Thursday September 5, 2013 8:38am

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Arsene Wenger. When he had a budget he assembled the best team England had ever seen. Since the end of that season he's had to sell his best players every single year yet still qualifies for the Champions League and plays the best quality soccer in England. Maybe he is too conservative in the transfer market, especially recently, but I don't think any other manager in the world could consistently succeed with what he has had.

There's also, of course, a very strong case for Guus Hiddink (though he might be retired).

Out of the ones you listed, let's wait until Laudrup manages a top club, Conte wins a competition that isn't easy (Serie A was a joke last season, no decent teams besides Juve), and De Boer moves to a more competitive league before we start claiming they're the best in the world.

One of my favorites who, IMO, is very underrated and as good as any manager in the world is Marcelo Bielsa. I really hope we can try to convince him to coach our NT at some point. This guy only wants to do projects and is willing to take over teams that aren't at the top level. He doesn't have a job and I think we could entice him into coaching us if we wanted to (I'm not sure if I see the USSF making such a move though).
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Post #3
Thursday September 5, 2013 10:58am

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Jean Tigana and Chris Coleman as managers for Fulham. I remember a long run of very poor Fulham sides which improved considerably with Tigana's appointment and Al-Fayed's money. Coleman has such an inspirational story, career shortened by injury but goes on to become a successful manager at a young age.

skangles
DC
Post #4
Thursday September 5, 2013 1:21pm

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Guus Hiddink

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #5
Thursday September 5, 2013 2:23pm

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Mourinho has his own cartoon show, I think that closes the book on this thread.

But, since it's a discussion...I've always been a fan of Roberto Martinez. I really dig his style and general demeanor, I don't know what it is about him.

Ian Holloway has a habit of whipping squads into fine fighting form, and his style of play is something I've admired since his Blackpool days.

EKneezy
Post #6
Thursday September 5, 2013 3:51pm

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Moyes always punched above his weight at Everton. Always foumd a way to win big games despite a low budget.

Jogi Loew has assembled a super squad for Germany. They crapped the bed at the Euros last year but I favor them to win the WC after the US of course.

Kreis is a guy who has a big future ahead of him. Porter as well even though his tactics can be mind numbing.

Coach Kev
Savannah, GA
Post #7
Thursday September 5, 2013 4:04pm

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Klopp is an incredible manager and developer of young talent. He is the Arsene Wenger of today (no ironically AW is not the AW of today).
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tylercocinas
Post #8
Thursday September 5, 2013 4:49pm

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Original post from Coach Kev

Klopp is an incredible manager and developer of young talent. He is the Arsene Wenger of today (no ironically AW is not the AW of today).


I disagree. The difference between BVB and Arsenal is Wenger's inability to keep the squad together that he was building. It would've been a juggernaut. In another time, there wouldn't have been as much pull from other big money clubs.

-Fabregas
-Na$ri
-Van Persie
-Clichy
-Flamini
-Alex Song

These players all play for top 5 clubs in the world.Then think about the injuries to guys like Eduardo and Ramsey that derailed both of their careers at the time, though Ramsey appears to be back.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #9
Thursday September 5, 2013 5:53pm

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Original post from tylercocinas

I disagree. The difference between BVB and Arsenal is Wenger's inability to keep the squad together that he was building. It would've been a juggernaut. In another time, there wouldn't have been as much pull from other big money clubs.

-Fabregas
-Na$ri
-Van Persie
-Clichy
-Flamini
-Alex Song

These players all play for top 5 clubs in the world.Then think about the injuries to guys like Eduardo and Ramsey that derailed both of their careers at the time, though Ramsey appears to be back.


I wouldn't really count RVP or Nasri, he helped them progress but they were developed by their previous clubs, lots of games before Arsenal. Flamini does not play for a top 5 club as he is back at Arsenal unless you meant top 5 club in each league.

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Ten-Towns
Post #10
Thursday September 5, 2013 6:13pm

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Rinus Michels, hands down.

admsghs27
Post #11
Thursday September 5, 2013 6:18pm

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theres a lot of coaches out there, Alejandro Sabella is a great coach, bruce Arena one of my favs, Simeone another good hearted coach.

tylercocinas
Post #12
Thursday September 5, 2013 6:23pm

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I feel like progress and develop are damn near synonymous. RVP signed his first pro contract in 2001 and left the club in 2004 at around 21. Given the tremendous up tick on his numbers during the 8 years he was at Arsenal I can't really agree that Feyenoord was responsible for the bulk of that.

I think you have more of a case with Nasri although he came to the club at age 21 as well. I still don't see him getting to MCFC without first going to Arsenal. Additionally he won French Footballer of the Year before departing for City.

You got me with Flamini. The reason I was counting him as being away was in terms of where he spent his prime years. And you're right upon 2nd thought, Milan hasn't been a top 5 club since just before he arrived.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #13
Thursday September 5, 2013 6:47pm

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RVP did sign his first pro contract in 2001 but he was at Feyenoord's academy for three years prior to that after being at Excelsior. The years for development is from ages 5-18 then it comes to just getting games. Feyenoord should definitely get credit for his development.

rainORshine
Post #14
Thursday September 5, 2013 11:02pm

Joined Dec 2012
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Original post from EKneezy

Moyes always punched above his weight at Everton. Always foumd a way to win big games despite a low budget.

Jogi Loew has assembled a super squad for Germany. They crapped the bed at the Euros last year but I favor them to win the WC after the US of course.

Kreis is a guy who has a big future ahead of him. Porter as well even though his tactics can be mind numbing.


did you see the beginning of the RSL match last week? could not believe my eyes. they came out in 3-1-2-3-1, essentially. never seen anything like it. was not at all surprised to see them go down 2-nil inside opening 15 minutes or so

tardis91
Post #15
Friday September 6, 2013 6:24am

Joined Jun 2013
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I think Porter tries too hard to show how smart he is, and then often looks really dumb tactically. He wants so bad to be a brand new thing, the next hot manager who came up with his own style. He is young though and as he gets more experienced I think he tones it down, but only slightly, or he may just look like a genius whose ideas never took off.

With Laurdrup I appreciate his ability to find players who not only perform but perform amazingly. He took over Swansea and they improved when they were expected to regress, and while he has yet proven he can manage a top tier team, that does not disqualify him in my eyes. Conte of course coaches in a weak league but he still wins and does so with great selection, quality tactics and is one of the favorites for the Italy job when it comes open. De Boer develops some of the top youth talent in the world and that is what I like in a manager, but your point is accurate nonetheless.

I am kind of surprised no one has mentioned Del Bosque yet.

Also no Martin Vazques lol come on guys he is possibly the greatest soccer mind of his generation.