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stone88
Post #16
Thursday August 29, 2013 9:45pm

Joined Aug 2012
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This is a very good roster. So many different options and lineups we could see. I think this is the deepest the USNT has ever been.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #17
Thursday August 29, 2013 9:46pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
I'm a big Brek Shea fan and am glad to see him off the roster...he needs to fight for that starting spot at Stoke and doesn't need to be overworked coming off of that injury.

49wyztoscore
Post #18
Thursday August 29, 2013 10:02pm

Joined Aug 2013
Total Posts: 43
Solid squad. Would have liked to see Sasha over Beckerman and maybe Lichaj a call up but still solid.

admsghs27
Post #19
Thursday August 29, 2013 10:25pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
This squad is very deep.. I'm sure there are several players that could step up at any given moment and perform well.

rainORshine
Post #20
Thursday August 29, 2013 11:00pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 2,097
well i am pissed about sacha so i am going to go against the grain and explain why i think this is a shitty roster:

orozco - why do go with goodson for entire gold cup only to replace him with a guy who plays RB?

castillo - even if you are going to play beasley at LB (which is a mistake) is fabian not still your back-up LB?

evans - you have chandler, cameron and lichaj (and orozco) playing solid RB at club level. what is evans' purpose? why are you taking an average MLS MF and playing him at RB?

diskerud - what has this guy done to make this squad? he is a prospect who is not really doing anything in a terrible league. in last 16 appearances for rosenborg he has averaged 55 minutes an app and has scored 0 goals with 1 assist. if this is a non-WC year, fine, bring in prospects. this is the biggest camp you will have before WC and you are bringing in a guy who has proven absolutely nothing in his entire career

shitty roster

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #21
Thursday August 29, 2013 11:19pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,189
Original post from rainORshine

well i am pissed about sacha so i am going to go against the grain and explain why i think this is a shitty roster:

orozco - why do go with goodson for entire gold cup only to replace him with a guy who plays RB?

castillo - even if you are going to play beasley at LB (which is a mistake) is fabian not still your back-up LB?

evans - you have chandler, cameron and lichaj (and orozco) playing solid RB at club level. what is evans' purpose? why are you taking an average MLS MF and playing him at RB?

diskerud - what has this guy done to make this squad? he is a prospect who is not really doing anything in a terrible league. in last 16 appearances for rosenborg he has averaged 55 minutes an app and has scored 0 goals with 1 assist. if this is a non-WC year, fine, bring in prospects. this is the biggest camp you will have before WC and you are bringing in a guy who has proven absolutely nothing in his entire career

shitty roster


Your gripe with Diskerud is somewhat understandable.

OF played some solid CB at the GC. He's a RB but we saw that he can step in.

Cameron plays RB but his performances have been iffy. Evans is the no.1 at the moment and Chandler has started just one game since Nurnberg's season started.

Castillo is depth. Plus FJ was listed as a midfielder so I think Klinsy wants him to stay there.

"He hasn't been w/ us yet, and this is not the time to experiment and see another face real quick." Jurgen on Lichaj, who is on USMNT radar

Lichaj has time to impress.

Let's calm down and relax. We can win with this roster.

Techskillz416
Post #22
Friday August 30, 2013 12:45pm

Joined Aug 2013
Total Posts: 114
Original post from EKneezy

Your gripe with Diskerud is somewhat understandable.

OF played some solid CB at the GC. He's a RB but we saw that he can step in.

Cameron plays RB but his performances have been iffy. Evans is the no.1 at the moment and Chandler has started just one game since Nurnberg's season started.

Castillo is depth. Plus FJ was listed as a midfielder so I think Klinsy wants him to stay there.

"He hasn't been w/ us yet, and this is not the time to experiment and see another face real quick." Jurgen on Lichaj, who is on USMNT radar

Lichaj has time to impress.

Let's calm down and relax. We can win with this roster.


I agree we should calm down a little and lets see what happens. A lot of time till WC2014.

dstones77
Hagerstown, MD
Post #23
Friday August 30, 2013 2:07pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 216
Original post from rainORshine

evans - you have chandler, cameron and lichaj (and orozco) playing solid RB at club level. what is evans' purpose? why are you taking an average MLS MF and playing him at RB?

diskerud - what has this guy done to make this squad? he is a prospect who is not really doing anything in a terrible league. in last 16 appearances for rosenborg he has averaged 55 minutes an app and has scored 0 goals with 1 assist. if this is a non-WC year, fine, bring in prospects. this is the biggest camp you will have before WC and you are bringing in a guy who has proven absolutely nothing in his entire career



Idk what purpose Evans serves you're exactly right, but its been "working" so he'll stick with it. and Fab is a LM.. he is a LM.. he is a LM. I don't want Beasley or Castillo at LB, but I'll deal with it if Fab is a LM.... a LM..

Loche Achles
Post #24
Friday August 30, 2013 2:50pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 279
Orozco is playing well right now at the club level, better than Goodson. They both showed well at the GC playing CB and Orozco is more versatile playing RB for his club for the past two seasons.

Castillo is here because he and FJ are the only two on the roster actually playing LB consistently for their clubs, and FJ will be playing in the mid. Plus he showed well against Bosnia.

Lichaj is a snub yes we all know it. So is Sacha, I'm with Rain there. Diskerud is weak and has been mediocre in terms of NT performances but has shown well for his age. He needs a move to a real league and real club where he can grow. I would've def taken Sacha over Disk.

Otherwise I have no complaints. Evans I'm not sure how anyone could question that as he has played RB for us without any issues for what... seven, eight games now? That ship has sailed...

jtsccr12
Post #25
Friday August 30, 2013 3:08pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 94
Hey guys... remember that time that Bornstien was our LB option of choice? I see a lot of discontent with Beasley, but the reality is aside from FJ he is the best LB we have had in a while (aside from Boca filling in). If our left side has Beasley as LB and Fabian as LM, I would say that is a strong side for us.

Secondly, I think Mix is a better choice than Sacha for these games... but not the world cup. CONCACAF foes have a hard time with Mix's creativity, and with his high energy he provides great defense in our attacking third. Sasha is much more composed, which doesn't really add anything to what our line-up looks like against teams who sit back. Against much better teams I want Sasha in the line-up in case Bradley goes down. But in this scenario, I am fine with the omission.

Lastly... I think JK tinkers with the 4-2-3-1 again... I hope to see Donovan and Dempsey interchange, the left side tries to get behind the DEF and the right side provides quick service, and Jozy ready to finish the quality service that LD and FJ will provide.

-------Jozy------
----FJ---Demps-LD
-----Bradley--Jones
Beasley-Beisler-Gonzo-Cameron
-------Howard

bjelks
Post #26
Friday August 30, 2013 3:13pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,414
Fab is the best lb in the history of the program and we want to gamble at lb because he's also our best left mid. Hell, he may be our best player and it is perfectly fine to play your best player at lb, especially if it's his best position. Roberto Carlos was a LB and you didnt see Brasil saying lets move him to mid because he can attack too.

This whole Evans thing is a joke. Eventually, we'll play a good team and he'll have to play 1v1 and get embarrassed.

Decisions like not calling up Lichaj even after he's done what JK has asked is what makes me still doubt JK.

Beckerman, really? So, instead of giving younger more talented players some experience at a position we are overloaded at, JK gives us another head scratcher.
Morales, O'brien, Williams.

Lastly I must apologize again, but I do not get the love affair with Zusi. All he's done is not be impressive. The crosses he delivers are basic and conservative. I just dont know what he brings that Taylor, Gyau, Adu, Corona, Wood dont bring.
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richieJkulesaNY
Post #27
Friday August 30, 2013 3:27pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 1,016
Is it just me or does Klinsmann only call in Beckerman after decent B-C squad performances? Then he brings in for the A team, finds he cant hang, and doesnt call him in again until another B-C level camp.

We play a 4-2-3-1. We do not need a dedicated #6. Against quality teams, both midfielders must produce in the attacking half and Beckerman has shown over and over he cant do it.

But in the end, I'm arguing about one of the last few roster spots, so its not that big of a deal.

Overall, a solid team that makes sense. We have proper backups for all positions, including the problematic wings.

Beasley and Evans are fine for now, but I really hope Klinsmann sees that these guys won't cut it in Brazil. With Lichaj being watched and Chandler starting to get hungry for international play(he stated he will be up late watching the Costa Rica and Mexico games in Germany), RB shouldnt be a concern.

dolcem
Post #28
Friday August 30, 2013 6:10pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,805
Original post from bjelks

Fab is the best lb in the history of the program and we want to gamble at lb because he's also our best left mid. Hell, he may be our best player and it is perfectly fine to play your best player at lb, especially if it's his best position. Roberto Carlos was a LB and you didnt see Brasil saying lets move him to mid because he can attack too.

This whole Evans thing is a joke. Eventually, we'll play a good team and he'll have to play 1v1 and get embarrassed.

Decisions like not calling up Lichaj even after he's done what JK has asked is what makes me still doubt JK.

Beckerman, really? So, instead of giving younger more talented players some experience at a position we are overloaded at, JK gives us another head scratcher.
Morales, O'brien, Williams.


Evans for Lichaj is because JK doesn't want to experiment in these two games (and I doubt Evans will start so it doesn't matter too much; Cameron or even Fiscal is more likely to play RB).

Williams or Morales will not do us any good come Brazil so if JK wants to put someone in that spot who is there for the locker room I'm fine with it (Beckerman is a great teammate with a great attitude). It's also good to rep the MLS. He also does his job exactly as he is told and he sets an example for the other players. People get so mad over his selection but it's not like he's going to start in Brazil or anything like that. A bench spot during a CONCACAF qualifier is no biggie.
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dolcem
Post #29
Friday August 30, 2013 6:14pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,805
Original post from bjelks

Lastly I must apologize again, but I do not get the love affair with Zusi. All he's done is not be impressive. The crosses he delivers are basic and conservative. I just dont know what he brings that Taylor, Gyau, Adu, Corona, Wood dont bring.


I am so with you on that one. He is possibly the worst footballer to wear the shirt for the Nats this cycle. He works really hard and is a great guy, so I hate to criticize him, but he is just not a player of international caliber. I seriously question the ability anyone who rates him highly (and a lot do here) to evaluate players. I think though he is so popular because of his work ethic but mostly because he is an MLS star so and a lot of people are rooting for him (understandably, we want to see MLS players prove themselves on the NT).

Aside from his attitude his only asset is that he sometimes puts in very good crosses. Even then, for every good cross he has several bad ones. He's slow, he can't dribble well, and he is completely ineffective at finding space to send in a good cross, much less create such an opportunity on his own. The only move he has is to run down the line and send in a predictable cross...or send in a simple one way too early to a defense that is well prepared to clear it. Just as you put it, his crosses are "basic and conservative." He has performed admirably against weak CONCACAF opponents recently (which means being invisible most of the game, and after recovering a loose ball hustling down the line and sending in a good cross that the clueless Caribbean CB's miss) but if we play against a top team with him we'll be a man down. Yeah he got that assist in the Germany friendly...when the German LB, knowing Zusi is not any good, was too lazy (the humidity) to close him down after letting him get 15 yards of space. Little did he know, Zusi can put in a good cross at times and it resulted in a goal, but he was completely invisible the rest of the game and he will never get a chance like that in the World Cup. He quite simply can't create space on his own against high-level opposition.

He isn't even the right position...he is a CM/outside mid, NOT a modern winger. He's not the type you put in a 4-5-1 when you're trying to play positively.

He's a hustle player who can do well in the MLS but he is nowhere near USNT quality. I think he is being included for the same reasons Beckerman is but he gets way too much PT. I hope to God Corona, Bedoya, and Shea (whom I don't rate highly) climb ahead of him in the depth chart come World Cup time. They are all much more talented and capable of being protagonists.
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Techskillz416
Post #30
Friday August 30, 2013 6:49pm

Joined Aug 2013
Total Posts: 114
Original post from bjelks

Beckerman, really? So, instead of giving younger more talented players some experience at a position we are overloaded at, JK gives us another head scratcher.
Morales, O'brien, Williams.

Lastly I must apologize again, but I do not get the love affair with Zusi. All he's done is not be impressive. The crosses he delivers are basic and conservative. I just dont know what he brings that Taylor, Gyau, Adu, Corona, Wood dont bring.


What a refreshing POST!!!! AMEN!!

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