Post #436
Monday September 12, 2016 3:47am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 1,111
Most of us knew that there was a high probability that the Galaxy were going to have injury issues this season when Bruce went out and filled his roster with Retirement players. The travel and heat of summer tend to have a dramatic impact on older aged players.

Post #437
Monday September 12, 2016 3:51am

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 2,647
Original post from cleancutimage

Landon is clearly not ready. He looked timid and out of shape. Looked like more of a testimonial match with him out there.

Yep. Its also more fuel for anti-MLS people. Here's a guy who hasn't played in however many months, joins the team a few days ago, and is on the pitch right after that. It's kind of ridiculous. And that actually has nothing to do with it being Landon. If a different player had retired, come back and joined a team and played a few days later, I would be just as disappointed with that team and the league as I am right now with this situation. He just didn't belong out there.
Post #438
Monday September 12, 2016 4:34am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,595
Also the media telling us that bringing Donovan out of retirement is good for the league..???.. I don't really agree with that. Most MLS teams continue to not give young players any extended minutes. Most are wasting away in the USL. Tommy Thompson has routinely looked like to be San Jose's best player on the field when given minutes. Yet he hasn't had an extended run in the first team under Kinnear.

At least Pareja has given extended minutes to many youth team products.

I agree with Friedel: the next evolution with MLS is getting the coaches to better integrate youth players into the first team. I don't know if it should be a mandatory rule set by MLS, but something needs to happen.

Post #439
Monday September 12, 2016 4:52am

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 954
Well, at least he was 5 lbs lighter than when he retired so I'd say there's a good chance he can contribute. Even as a fat ass at the end he was near the top of JK's beep test. I believe him when he says he hasn't touched a ball in 21 months. Not bad considering.

Post #440
Monday September 12, 2016 5:00am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,340
Selfish move by Landon regardless, he has nothing left to give to the Galaxy and US Soccer. He has done all he could. If he really felt like he could help he should have never left in the first place. He cannot take these retirements and then think he can just come back into the team when you have other people who are willing to put in the work around the clock.

Bruce Arena needs to grow some balls on this and I am sure Klinsmann isn't even looking Landon's direction even though a few folks on here thinks he should get a look at for the November qualifiers, which is ridiculous and makes us look desperate as ever. We are really not in that bad of shape and have as deep a player pool as ever and arguably our most deep pool ever. We do not need Landon.

Thanks Landon for your past but no thanks for this current comeback.

Culver City, CA
Post #441
Monday September 12, 2016 10:38am

Joined Mar 2014
Total Posts: 2,147
I was just going to go straight back to lurking but chris said a nice thing, and I am glad that 85% of this site has smart opinions about this LD nonsense, and all the various factors surrounding it. It says really bad things about player development and how dumb they think their fan base is. He could possibly come back to 'decent' in a few games, maybe, but is the academy really that terrible?? It's hard for academy players to get 'blooded' when they don't get to play because Gerard and LD are taking their minutes.

I seriously think this site is smarter as a whole than other sites or popular bloggers. (I tore Rob Usry from starsandstripes a new asshole last week, and then got out of there. He's a genuine dipshit)

If I wasn't so down on MLS and Klinsy and Gulati, I'd be here a lot more right now.
It's putting a damper on my love of the game something fierce. I'm following just enough to watch highlights. (it looks like we have some good chemistry brewin' on the USMNT side.... I... think... T&T is #68 though)

There is a home-cookin' refereeing bias in MLS right now that I'm extremely suspicious of, among other issues with youth development in and out of the academies.

There is some hope from the last two USMNT games that Klinsy may stop making stupid XI and sub and roster choices soon....? Again, I think he's a good coach with some severe downsides: I think that no one can tell him he's wrong, and he's inflexible in his thinking- that sort of thing. Yes, all coaches are going to overvalue and undervalue some players, but, come on....

Post #442
Monday September 12, 2016 11:55am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,723
You wonder if MLS needs to think about some variation of the rule MX just implemented where they force something like 8 of the 18 guys to be under 25 (guaranteeing at least 90' plus any sub appearances). Ridiculous you'd have to do this but its like the salary cap, the league sometimes needs to step in to protect the owners/manager from themselves.

Post #443
Monday September 12, 2016 4:25pm

Joined Aug 2016
Total Posts: 33
You've got to wonder if the youth in MLS now isn't a direct relation to JK's pressure on the youth set up. For as much as he makes some head scratching moves related to roster selection, the youth set-up has improved tremendously, and I think JK is a main culprit.

As for LD. It's joke he's playing his first game back. This is nothing more than a money grab....has to be. LA is supposed to have one of the better academies, and yet, the senior squad is majority older players, aged DP's, etc. Jameison by all accounts is a good prospect, now going on 20 and he's featured, what 3 times? Last I recalled, he can play winger and forward... so why not play him as a winger or forward. Sounds like the perfect young cover for Zardes....

I just don't get it.

Post #444
Monday September 12, 2016 6:33pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,352
From everything I've read and watched, Arena reached out to Landon. My guess is that the Zardes injury really bit them in the ass but also Arena sees no youth players taking that next step. This is by no means a thumbs up for the Donovan comeback but Bruce is stubborn which really says something of their academy.

McBean was loaned out probably for good.
Jamieson hasnt broken through.
Jose Villarreal is on a milk carton.

Know Nothing
Post #445
Monday September 12, 2016 6:51pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,828
The only valid reason I can see to justify playing LD over youth is the "favorite" factor where LD, being a veteran, will get preferential treatment from refs...especially in the playoffs. In fact, with all the aged superstars on their roster, it wouldn't surprise me if that does not go into the Galaxy's thinking when building their roster.

Rey Regicide
Post #446
Monday September 12, 2016 7:01pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
Paul Arriola, Haji Wright "knew" better? Or did those two spurn the Galaxy so hard that they're meh about their academy?

Post #447
Monday September 12, 2016 10:40pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 341
Arena likes Vets... this is fact.

Post #448
Monday September 12, 2016 11:03pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Original post from Rey Regicide

Paul Arriola, Haji Wright "knew" better? Or did those two spurn the Galaxy so hard that they're meh about their academy?

They had better offers abroad more $$ etc... doing whats best for their careers.

Post #449
Tuesday September 13, 2016 3:06am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,595
LA lost Arriola because Arena flat out told Arriola that he wouldn't be getting any first team minutes the first season if he signed with the Galaxy. Tijuana offered more money and told Arriola he would see first team minutes his first year. And in fact Paul did see first team
Minutes that first year.

LA lost Arriola directly because of Arena.

Wright stated he didn't feel like signing with the Galaxy was the right move for his career.

Not only did LA lose Haji they lost his talented younger brother Hanif as well. Galaxy fans need to ask why these kids don't want to stay?

Hell Seattle sucks at integrating youth as well. Anderson should be seeing more time. Alfaro is a talented young CB. But at least they have given Morris and Roldan significant minutes this season.

Post #450
Tuesday September 13, 2016 4:22am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,452
It's the same everywhere. Even the worst team, my Chicago Fire (which is owned by a holding company who waits out a sale until the franchise gets worth more $$$$ as the league value increases), doesn't play the kids.
We didn't understand when Victor Pineda (first homegrown signing) didn't get to play.
Then Collin Fernandez hasn't played (for two years running) and will disappear.
Last year, the u17-18 team won the ussda; fans thought we would see new changes with a new regime led by a youth coach, Paunovic. Fans clamored for pro contracts for the leaders of that youth champion team, Mauricio Pineda (CB, younger bro of Victor) and the captain, Cam Lindley (CM - a real Steven Gerrard type player). These guys dedication to the Fire is fantastic and their skills merited pro contracts. Instead they are both at the University of North Carolina playing college soccer. And the goal scorer in the championship game last year (bumped up a level for the playoffs due to his skills and promise), promising USA u-19 attacking midfielder Djordje Mihailovic? He has committed to UNC next year already. The Fire don't even have a FireII team in USL pro like the Galaxy and Sounders.... As Jürgen says we have a long way to go towards moving forward in our youth development.

Landon Donovan is narcissistic but this has Don Garber's grubby fingerprints all over it. He and the rest like Andrew Hauptmann, the "owners" of soccer as Don tweeted a little while ago, only care about $$$, and the future values of the franchises. If Landon, super muppet that he is, brings only 1% more viewership (and judging by the fawning of adms and his ilk, it's more like 3-5%), then Garber is all for it. Who cares about Jose Villareal anyway???

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