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admsghs27
Post #196
Friday August 15, 2014 7:08am

Joined Nov 2012
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Yup time to move on.. The great one is gone we have to celebrate all his remaining games.

I'm gonna be heading to Seattle the last weekend of the season, October 25th to witness landon Donovans last regular season or possibly last match ever, should be an awesome atmosphere there.

Live490
Texas
Post #197
Friday August 15, 2014 3:07pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 236
In that case, sticking to what you're saying, no team ever parks the bus. And what terrible team selection JK did, not just in reference to Donovan.

dunlopp9987
Post #198
Friday August 15, 2014 5:04pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 1,079
Original post from Live490

In that case, sticking to what you're saying, no team ever parks the bus. And what terrible team selection JK did, not just in reference to Donovan.


You're right. Bringing Zusi and Brooks on in the Ghana game was a TERRIBLE decision, as was bringing Yedlin on for Portugal, and Green on for Belgium.

GO HOME.
COYB!!
Live490
Texas
Post #199
Friday August 15, 2014 5:33pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 236
Go home? Haha your analysis is pathetic man.. i feel bad if there are more fans like you that are ok with the way USA played this cup.. stick to some other sport or fifa. Davis, Bedoya, AJo, Wondo, and Chandler were all dumb choices. And fyi i was ok with Yedlin and Brooks. Plus, Brooks had to come in cause Besler got injured.

dunlopp9987
Post #200
Friday August 15, 2014 5:57pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 1,079
Original post from Live490

Go home? Haha your analysis is pathetic man.. i feel bad if there are more fans like you that are ok with the way USA played this cup.. stick to some other sport or fifa. Davis, Bedoya, AJo, Wondo, and Chandler were all dumb choices. And fyi i was ok with Yedlin and Brooks. Plus, Brooks had to come in cause Besler got injured.


No, you just have stupidly high expectations. Jurgen made some great choices, and he made some not so great choices. Guess what? That's how it goes. It's utterly absurd to expect him to make every perfect decision. I do think Jurgen is a very good manager, but he's bound to make mistakes.
COYB!!
Live490
Texas
Post #201
Friday August 15, 2014 6:39pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 236
Taking davis was great! Especially playing him against Germany. Excellent choice. Or realizing AJo was of no help to his "tactics." No one makes perfect choices, but that stupid? And i don't have high expectations i'm just not content with a coach coming in preaching possession football and when it comes time to perform, nothing. We dont have the players and what not ppl will say, but i think we do. Then the "they have to be playing" situation. Or the "commitment" issues by Chandler.

coverby
Post #202
Friday August 15, 2014 6:43pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 71
Original post from Live490

In that case, sticking to what you're saying, no team ever parks the bus. And what terrible team selection JK did, not just in reference to Donovan.


I really don't think you know what parking the bus is.

Live490
Texas
Post #203
Friday August 15, 2014 7:02pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 236
Oh my lol.

dunlopp9987
Post #204
Friday August 15, 2014 7:26pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 1,079
Original post from Live490

Taking davis was great! Especially playing him against Germany. Excellent choice. Or realizing AJo was of no help to his "tactics." No one makes perfect choices, but that stupid? And i don't have high expectations i'm just not content with a coach coming in preaching possession football and when it comes time to perform, nothing. We dont have the players and what not ppl will say, but i think we do. Then the "they have to be playing" situation. Or the "commitment" issues by Chandler.


You must not have been watching the Portugal game. Or the Ghana game before Jozy went down. We were playing exactly the way Jurgen said we would before Jozy went down with his injury. Had that not happened, we very likely would've dominated the rest of the Ghana match.

And again, did you not see the Portgual game? Sure we drew 2-2, but one goal was down to an individual mistake, and the other was just tired legs and minds in the dying seconds. We dominated that game. And we were NEVER going to play Jurgen's style of football against Germany. We just needed to advance.

You Jurgen naysayers claim that we who support him are blind to his mistakes, and the mistakes of the team. If that's true, you are also blind to his successes and brilliant tactical decisions.
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hamsamwich
Post #205
Friday August 15, 2014 8:50pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 469
We only lost by a goal to Germany, you act like Davis was the reason why, or that he's somehow responsible for the loss entirely. It's just not true. The whole team was ineffective playing on a very wet and slick field against a more drilled, technical team. Maybe you've never played on a slick field before guy. But for the rest of us, we know it's easy to make bad touches that lead to turnovers, or to just lose possession. The game has a tendency to get sloppy. The more technical team, Germany (wc champ), won because they were more confident on the ball and braver in possession, which again comes from their ability to play the same in any weather. Davis was brought because we needed bodies in the midfield that could play tucked in on the left side, and during the wc cycle, Jose Torres et al were tried there and of all the candidates, the best was Fabian Johnson, but we wanted him at RB. So to pick on brad davis for being outmatched by sweinsteiger, khedira, kroos and the others is a joke. He played decent and Landon was never going to play in that spot. The idea was to get Beasley forward. We just weren't good enough to make it work enough. Still almost tied them at the end of the game if you recall.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #206
Friday August 15, 2014 8:58pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 4,950
Interesting stat according to FIFA. The USMNT never had less than 50 percent possession until losing to Belgium. And even then it was like 48 percent possession.

Stats don't tell the whole story obviously about where that possession was for the USMNT, but it's interesting nonetheless.

But that is also a far cry from parking the bus.

I will tell you what did the USMNT in against Belgium.

1. Altidore not healthy
2. Graham Zusi having one of his worst possible games.
3. Dempsey having his most ineffectual game at the WC. Down to him having shit tired legs.
4. Klinsmann keeping both Zusi and Bedoya in the game to long.
5. Belgium's attackers were more ruthless when in possession.
6. The USMNT waits to get punched in the mouth before really waking up. Happened against Ghana. After Ghana scored the USMNT took the game to Ghana in the last 15 minutes after taking the game to Ghana the first 20 mins. After Portigal scored the USMNT woke up and dominated the game. After Germany scored the USMNT woke up and took the game to the Germans. After Belgium scored twice in overtime the team finally woke up and was a Dempsey touch away from tying up the game.

The team tried and to some extent took the game to Belgium.

All you have to do is look at how much Yedlin got into the attacking third.

The USMNT is a few talented players and a mental block away from really being a force.

hamsamwich
Post #207
Friday August 15, 2014 9:17pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 469
I agree with what you had there 2tone, but what I'm saying is, our problem is more like what Tyson said when he said, "everyone has a plan until I hit them in the mouth". Meaning, before the game we have a plan but our execution is still off. I look to the next generation to see if they can hang with the speed of the game at the highest level. Our will to win and desire are unquestioned, but right now those are still built on a foundation that isn't rock solid. All these youth players we all see getting signed and playing everywhere from MLS and Europe represent our chance to change that foundation from paper to rock, so we can use our winning American mentality to our advantage, instead of being silly and "going for it" and Belgium when we didn't have the players to get it done. Maybe in extra time, "parking the bus" to get to a shootout featuring Timmy would have been more prudent. But we are Americans, we want to win. We still need to raise our level of execution to go with our self belief and we will reach that next stage Jurgen is talking about.

admsghs27
Post #208
Friday August 15, 2014 10:38pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,053
USA is 3 great players away from being world Elite.
1 great world class defender.
1 true star winger for example a Di Maria type of player.
And lastly a true world Class #10, for example a pirlo, riquelme, zidane, ect.. type.
And we would be a powerhouse!!

dolcem
Post #209
Friday August 15, 2014 11:01pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,036
Does anyone here think admsghs27 is over 13?
NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT WHAT LINEUP YOU USE IN FIFA
dunlopp9987
Post #210
Friday August 15, 2014 11:21pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 1,079
Original post from admsghs27

USA is 3 great players away from being world Elite.
1 great world class defender.
1 true star winger for example a Di Maria type of player.
And lastly a true world Class #10, for example a pirlo, riquelme, zidane, ect.. type.
And we would be a powerhouse!!


So you're saying we have world elite strikers right now?

Boink.
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