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tylercocinas
Post #61
Thursday November 21, 2013 3:45am

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Original post from 2tone
Don't be surprised if Joe gets a look come the March friendlies regardless if he is only playing for Hoffenheim II. The winger positions are still an area of concern.


If they continue to play the 4-2-3-1 there's no reason he would remotely be in the conversation since Klinsmann seems to have his established group of Fabian, Donovan (who can play wide left or right, but Zusi seems to be the preferred wide right player), Brad Davis, then Shea.

navi8132
New York
Post #62
Thursday November 21, 2013 3:53am

Joined Jul 2012
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Joe needs to know when to quit. He won't be a 1st team bundesliga player (yet or ever). Go to MLS and prove yourself and grow. US players and their foolish decisions. Luis Gil was an example of a mature intelligent young person.

tylercocinas
Post #63
Thursday November 21, 2013 5:10am

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Navi8132, Luis Gil made the right decision for him as a person. Just as there's more than one way to skin a cat, not every player starts out, or ever plays in their country's domestic league. That being said I agree 100% MLS would be a great place for Joe, but he'll find his own way in good time.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #64
Thursday November 21, 2013 6:44am

Joined Jul 2012
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Original post from tylercocinas

If they continue to play the 4-2-3-1 there's no reason he would remotely be in the conversation since Klinsmann seems to have his established group of Fabian, Donovan (who can play wide left or right, but Zusi seems to be the preferred wide right player), Brad Davis, then Shea.


Maybe, maybe not. One thing that I have learned is that nothing is finite with Klinsmann.

I am not saying he will be a selection, only that Gyau is an option.

bbakerxyz
Post #65
Thursday November 21, 2013 3:15pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 237
Gyau is quite a stretch, but I am finally ready to call it for Shea in 2014. I don't want to see him taking up an opportunity in the lineup for someone else. He's had plenty of opportunities in the last 12 months and he's been awful for the most part. Plus, no time for his club team.

Klinsy needs to move on and give another left winger a chance to back up Lando, Fabian and whoever else is at the top of the depth chart over there. And dear God, not Castillo.

richieJkulesaNY
Post #66
Thursday November 21, 2013 3:22pm

Joined Jun 2012
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If Shea can get a chance, I dont see why Gyau cant. He has the skillset for the position. I would be perfectly ok with this experiment.

snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #67
Thursday November 21, 2013 3:32pm

Joined Jul 2013
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Original post from richieJkulesaNY

If Shea can get a chance, I dont see why Gyau cant. He has the skillset for the position. I would be perfectly ok with this experiment.


skillset but lacks the actual skills doesn't help us next summer
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Know Nothing
Post #68
Thursday November 21, 2013 4:11pm

Joined Jan 2013
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Original post from tylercocinas

If they continue to play the 4-2-3-1 there's no reason he would remotely be in the conversation since Klinsmann seems to have his established group of Fabian, Donovan (who can play wide left or right, but Zusi seems to be the preferred wide right player), Brad Davis, then Shea.


Brazil in very unrealistic for Gyau but getting a look may not be too far fetched if he forces his way onto the Hoffenheim squad.

Of the players you mentioned, Donovan and Davis more than likely will get eased out being older. FJ is the most likely option, if he does not replace DMB at LB.

Right now, as I see it, Gyau and Shea are in the same boat as neither play first team football at the moment. They are similar players but the one edge I think Gyau would have over Shea right now is he is a little more cocky and as a result would not lose confidence as fast as Shea has done.

As far as Gyau playing in MLS...I don't see that as likely for the near future. He is still young and training at Hoffenheim would presumably be more beneficial than training and playing in MLS. The only benefit MLS has for him at this time would be adjusting to the grind of a long season.

Know Nothing
Post #69
Thursday November 21, 2013 4:13pm

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Original post from snipes87

skillset but lacks the actual skills doesn't help us next summer


No, he doesn't help us in Brazil but any new face surely lights a fire under under those in competition for places.

Calling up Gyau may also be beneficial in getting him a loan move so he can get some competitive matches.

tylercocinas
Post #70
Thursday November 21, 2013 9:56pm

Joined Aug 2012
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Original post from Know Nothing

As far as Gyau playing in MLS...I don't see that as likely for the near future. He is still young and training at Hoffenheim would presumably be more beneficial than training and playing in MLS. The only benefit MLS has for him at this time would be adjusting to the grind of a long season.


He's 21, so I would say he getting close to the point where training in a Bundesliga level environment is no longer superior to actually playing matches. Going 90 minutes week in and week out is how a young player truly reaches their true potential.

Know Nothing
Post #71
Thursday November 21, 2013 10:44pm

Joined Jan 2013
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Original post from tylercocinas

He's 21, so I would say he getting close to the point where training in a Bundesliga level environment is no longer superior to actually playing matches. Going 90 minutes week in and week out is how a young player truly reaches their true potential.


I agree. A move back to MLS would make for an interesting story...he would be the third generation of his family to play professionally at the highest level in this country.
I still think a loan and a move to a middle to upper middle level Euro league would be his preference if he were to leave Hoffenheim.

navi8132
New York
Post #72
Friday November 22, 2013 1:16am

Joined Jul 2012
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I think he is essentially just interested in the money as far as staying with HOF.

bjelks
Post #73
Friday November 22, 2013 5:45am

Joined Nov 2012
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If Zusi, Beckerman, and Omar Gonzo can play in Brazil, than Gyau surely can.
goalsense
2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #74
Friday November 22, 2013 6:38am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,357
He is working his way to get back with the first team. I don't see that as a problem.

Right or wrong fans place expectations on a young player that sometimes are unrealistic.

He has been very good for Hoffenheims reserve team this season, and continues to strengthen some of his areas of weakness. That's the whole point of a reserve team.

He plays week in and week out in a very good developmental league. Obviously Hoffenheim seem to think he has what it takes to eventually be a contributor for the first team, or they would have cut him by now, like they did to Charles Renken.

He just turned 21, and there isn't a whole lot of depth for Hoffenehim at either winger position.

It is easy to be a cynic, what isn't easy is for fans is giving players time and patience.

Some of the USMNT's most talented players bounced around euro leagues and teams. Mcbride, Reyna, Ramos, Harkes, Wynalda, and many more. Mcbride never established himself in Europe until he was 30 years old.

I say keep it up Joe, perseverance is a virtue.

admsghs27
Post #75
Friday November 22, 2013 6:46am

Joined Nov 2012
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If gyau wants to make a push for the world cup, he has to start for hoffenheim and consistently play 90. Not just random sub appearances. On top of that he has to perform exceptional if given a chance with the mnt. He is way behind on the depth chart and the world cup is almost here. Im pretty sure klissman already rounded of his pool to 30 players. he just needs to find 23 from there. And there are at least 10 players that are a lock. So that leaves about 13 spots open.

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